I think it is high time we agreed at this one.
Vengeance’s kit is simply not working right. The class got nerfed hard and it exposed fundamental issues in it. It has low damage thus low healing and nearly no mitigation outside of spikes. Metamorphosis shouldn’t be the only one CD and in fact it should be FORM rather than def CD. Spirit Bomb should be a baseline ability rather than the only talent worth taking in it’s row.
DO we seriously need to wait another year to make it playable? I mean you CAN play it but why should you if you can pick warrior/pala/monk. There is absolutely no reason outside of having spacerbar gliders to play this class. First pull on dungoens is even harder than Blood dk’s one and there’s that IDIOTIC talent that allows you to put your sigils under your character while you can actually make a macro for it.
This class is rushed and we all do know it. At least try to hotfix it after azshara raid kicks in. It has GREAT theme, tanking and being a demon but it lacks something and in fact not something but “everything”.
I think the changes to vengance in 8.2 are a step in the right direction . There are many VDHs doing high keys and mythic raids already so these changes will only make things better. Sure there’s better classes but that’s always been the case in wow . Once patch your the nail and another patch your the hammer.
I think it shouldn’t be thiss way. I think that all classes should be somehow on par with others with one being better on certain affixes while second being better on the other one’s.
8.2 changes offer nothing but mitigation outside of spikes, the rest stays awfully the same.
The changes are poop. My 419 VDH (all BiS azerite, stats, trink and essence) is still far below my 410 pally at DPS, self heals, mitigation. My 412 prot warrior is far superior in everything but self heals. And my 410 guardian is doing insane damage (same as prot war before nerf), and is insanely tanky for physical damage. I can maintain 4x IF for 30k armour easily, and have gone up to 7 stacks at times. And doing 20-30k dps in 15 keys, compared to my VDH that’s doing 15kish.