Vile Taint

Classes Warlock
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Introduction:
Vile Taint CD 30 seconds
Agony duration (at max 25 seconds)

Sad story:
Warlocks goes in m+ :partying_face:
Warlock wants put agony on 12 targets
Warlock casts Vile Taint
Warlock dots only 8 :man_facepalming:
Warlock have already alot procs and spells to cast :star_struck:
Warlock confused ignores everything :roll_eyes:
Warlock keep pushing 4 times agony button extra :hot_face:
Warlock happy :heart_eyes:
Agony starts falling off :disappointed_relieved:
Warlock stressed :fearful:
Warlock look at his friend Vile Taint :eyes:
Warlock panic :cold_sweat:
Warlock see Vile Taint betrays him :dizzy_face:
Warlock sad. :sob:
Warlock logs out. :rage:

I don’t even know how to explain it anymore but i am at this point %900 sure that none of the devs plays or even tried aff in m+ because it makes ZERO sense this spec is designed full mongo single or dual target raiding. This thing is a joke.

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Euhm affli is decent in tww in m+, ofc destro is alot better but still its decent

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I think you are misunderstanding Aff gameplay, DoTs are not supposed to last infinitely like Corruption, refreshing DoTs is part of the gameplay.

Agony has a cap on shard generation, so on big pulls it’s best to simply maintain 5-6 Agony and start spamming Malefic Rapture and fish for Cunning Cruelty procs instead of wasting GCDs on spreading Agony to 10 mobs.

Besides that, Volatile Agony talent makes it worth to manually refresh Agony 1 by 1 when the duration is below 10 seconds.

If refreshing DoTs makes you stressed you should probably play a different class.

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My dude you almost speak all words empty.
-First of all this is not about the numbers at all but awkwardness of the spec’s design.
-Second I understand the Aff gameplay better than you probably do and no body is asking anything to be permament and we do renew the dots.
-Third you don’t even play the lock class as i look into your rio so your opinion is not really based on experience nor analysis.
–Forth no other class ends up in that dire awkward situation as worse as locks do, spikes and stops within the rotation and maintance dance. But this you probly do not even notice so the spec is fine to you and i am happy for you.

Finally I would happly do as you suggest if only your Rio profile would match the wisdom you share and worth listen to.

here we go


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nobody cares about affliction until blizzard deletes malefic rapture from the game, so not worth playing or even thinking about

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Yeah it’s not like all I explained and justified everything I said with arguments, your whiny post that starts 14 times with the word “warlock” and has 2-3 words per line is much more in depth, sorry to not be at your level Mr. Harvard graduate.

That is subjective, there are other classes with this same design like Shadow Priest or Destro lock, plus I never said anything about numbers, it’s just how the spec is made, if you don’t like it then don’t play it.

Indeed you seem very knowledgeable about how to play Affl, especially considering Vile Taint has been our AoE Agony applicator for years, nice discovery, genious.

Since you like to judge books by their cover, I feel the need to remind you that you’re a 492 Evoker with 500 rating. I suppose you have the highest possible score on a different character otherwise you wouldn’t be allowed to talk about anything :clown_face:

Also just so you know, what you’re looking at is a 1 week old Warlock that I made on a RP server which has nothing to do with my game experience since I started playing in 2008.

But even if I was just a low score player that wouldn’t make my points any less valid, it just shows how arrogant and ignorant you are.

C’mon then, show us your super high score Warlock so we can see how good you are :slight_smile: don’t hide behind a score 500 Evoker if you’re so proud of yourself.

SPriest’s Shadow Crash and Death Knights’ Death and Decay would like to have a word with you mr illustrated.

I’m also happy for you for being so oblivious about everything, you can count on me to smack some reality into your face anytime. :kissing_heart:

Yes because everyone knows if you don’t have the highest score you can’t have an opinion nor have to be taken serious, thank you mr top 1 raiderio player to enlighten us!

Come and reply with your 4k score character so everyone can see it :smiley: oh wait https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/es-es/character/eu/twisting-nether/thuzadin that is you, 512 ilvl with 2k rating and highest key is a +8
 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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MR is here to stay (it seems).

On top of this, in M+, especially in high keys, mobs take quite a while to die and its not rare where you see 5 to 10 mob pulls. In such pulls, refreshing dots is not ideal.

Shadow Crash’s CD is 20 seconds. VT should be 20 seconds too.

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Agreed. That is a QoL change that would make Aff AOE feel great.

I don’t know why they are resistant to it. When I play my Spriest shadow crash is ready to press before my dots run out. So much smoother.

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There are talents that interact with refreshing agony,and it is that direction we are going into TWW so dont expect changes to happen.

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That seems like a weird design road. They are promoting a game design where you constantly need to pull mobs en masse (5 to 10 mobs) otherwise you won’t be able to time keys.

Its simply not possible to keep up with other DPS if you are going to individually refresh dots. Or, the “refresh dots” talents are going to be absolutely broken. But that can’t happen as their effect on ST vs. AoE would differ significantly.

Hence, Aff will either be overtuned and despite the loss of DPS during manual refresh of dots will still make it viable, with bad QoL features.

Or, it will both have mediocre DPS with bad QoL features, which was the case for the entirity of Dragonflight.

I am only talking about M+ here as I don’t raid at all.

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Shadow priests have Shadow Crash which has a 15s cooldown and applies Shadow Word pain, Vampiric touch and Echoing void, which all have a 20s cooldown. So fair to say shadow priests are winning with dot management AoE. They can just use shadow crash on cd for full dot uptime.

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Great post!

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