As it is right now in Beta, at some point together with Vol’jin we go into the Maw to save some loa from there and bring them to Ardenweald for the whole rebirthing thing. We save Hir’eek, Ashamane and Shadra, but we are too late to get Rezan. Dying, Rezan gives Vol’jin his essence, essentially making him a loa. And back with the Winter Queen, Vol’jin is granted a rebirth pod.
So…
Vol’jin is kind of a loa now. Or fused with one. I guess he wasn’t before?
Vol’jin will be reborn. That… should lead to some interesting troll politics, shouldn’t it? Seems unlikely that Vol’jin would have forgotten his personal and political alligeances.
We still don’t really have a clue why Vol’jin was still around and what kept his spirit from passing on.
Sorry, I didn’t really pay too much attention, but I did take some screens of the dialogue.
I hate it, I’d rather if Rezan would remain in SL to get some bigger role in taking down the baddies than dying just to give Vol’Jin back.
Looks like Vol’Jin was only ascending because Rezan bound himself to him, not because Vol’Jin was Loa material himself.
And I was really hoping for Rezan to be back to be proper patron of Zandalari prelates.
I’m not sure if I want to play SL right now. I might take a longer break.
It is unlikely that he will forget them, but questionable whether he will still be a horde character when he returns. I think it’s more likely that he will be a patron loa of all trollkind, maybe work towards uniting the tribes and mostly interact when trolls in particular are in danger.
I noticed that he says to Rezan “our people need you”, which sounds to me like he doesn’t make a difference between Zandalari and Darkspear any longer. And there’s also his " For the Darkspear- and all de tribes!"
I thought it was confirmed by now that Rezan himself was the “Hand of Valor”? Stupid as it sounds.
Also known as “as soon as the devs want to use him”. Which can be very soon or not… but will certainly be within the next addons.
How does that not make him essentially a Horde character? With the Zandalari and the Darkspear, trolls are quite clearly Horde-aligned. He probably won’t return as Warchief, sure… but there is still a lot of upheveal he can bring. At the very least he is kind of a threat to Rokhan’s prominence.
Was it? I think that was mostly based on the beta dialogue that became this quest chain (I mean, we had the dialogue where the Winter Queen told us that Vol’jins souls was intertwined with a loa), but now with context it doesn’t really look the same.
Insofar as he isn’t himself a member of the horde ( like Bwonsamdi ), doesn’t have to answer to a warchief or council and would only interfere for the sake of his people.
I’m just going by what we know right now (ignoring the changing nature of beta). We know that he gets loa powers and privileges. We know of nothing that would lead to a change in his character (yet). So going by the character of Vol’jin… he is a clear Horde character, who even chose the Horde over zandalari honors. He has friends there, and he believes in the idea of the Horde. If he is to unite the trolls, it will certainly be within the Horde - how else, considering 2 tribes are stuck there as long as factions exist?
Sur, nothing prevents them from sidelining the character again. But if they don’t… there is no way not to make him Horde that I can see. At worst they can make him essentially turn into Rezan, and in that case he would just be essentially part of the zandalari side of the Horde.
I assume it will be something along the lines that “loa aren’t supposed to meddle in mortal politics”.
But who knows? Maybe the horde gets a god-tier character for once and Vol’jin, infused with all of Rezan’s wisdom and powers, will just roflstomp alliance forces in an upcoming Light Evil expansion?
Indeed it won’t. Because, as Horde players have decried for some time, the Alliance is at the moment leaving the Horde in the dust in terms of character power. With Malfu, Jaina, Velen, Alleria, possibly Tyrande and so on, one actively pro-Horde loa is just one step in the right direction (or… at least not really adding to the balance problem. I guess overpowered characters are a problem in itself…). Balancing things out rather than overwhelming the Alliance.
also this.
And especially when they’re horde characters. In regards of balance, I’d rather we have less of them on the alliance side than more on the horde side, where the villain bat is always just a step away.
Mye I’m also not a fan of walking gods. I’d rather depower people to some reasonable level to the point tactical theory-crafting makes sense and it’s not utterly pointless when the likes of Janina arrive. xD
Well, disappointment keeps piling up…Rezan was one of the coolest and most impressive Loa/Wild Gods for me.
And the patron of the Prelate order, from what little Troll lore I do know…I had hoped for his rebirth instead of some Vol’zilla like loa…
I suppose I should be glad with the prospect of Vol’jin returning in some future…but I didn’t want it to be at the cost of Rezan.
The chief issue i have with his death, is the how underwhelming it seemed.
Compared to the tearjerking moment with Ursoc, having him die in some questline (something that has happened to him TWICE), is downright nasty regarding his character treatment.
Hyped all over, and effectually sidelined.
Also, again i’ll say, that having this sort of developments and yet pulling forth some “Saving Ysera” plot (would be like the fifth time she has to be saved in some way), is rather jarring.
And regarding this bit:
Well…Ursoc was the patron of Guardian druids. It does seem like Blizzard is shaking up things, or does not care much anymore about that sort of stuff.
True, although they have been replacing older lore figures as a trend now, Thrall, Cairne, Vol’jin, Sylvanas, Rastakhan etc
For the Alliance, Fandral sort off, Magni, Varian.
New writing team…out with the old, in with the new?
Sort of like managers, fix what didn’t need fixing, firmly put your own mark all across the board, shame that this one didn’t think about consequences or making sure the replacements were suitably developed to be accepted by the ple-players.
They could’ve simply write that Rezan decided to stay in SL longer to hunt the baddies and postpone his return to mortal plane until it’s convenient for writers. Perma killing him is a grave mistake imo.
Since when are loa neutral? They were always pro troll. That includes no alliance, and 2 Horde races. So, even if Vol’jin didn’t keep his old character, and I see no reason to assume that he wouldn’t, making him a loa would still essentially make him a Horde character.
