Warcraft used to be better when it was just a bunch of dudes fighting eachother, and having to deal with mysterious crap while they fought eachother. Humans, dwarves, ogres, orcs and trolls all have that vibe where they have to punch someone in the face and it was awesome.
Then you look at lore now… yeah. I don’t really care about the soap opera between the dozen or so characters. WoW was never deep. Stop trying to make it to be. It was just a bunch of dudes trying to survive a hard cold world where there’s war everywhere and it was awesome.
Then there’s people who are terminally online, who can’t seperate reality for fiction, who had to ruin the fun… they had nothing going on in their lives so they tried to “better” a virtual world made for entertainment to reflect their world views.
Warcraft = boring and in today’s society I don’t see it coming back because there’s people at top who have to just force their world view through our throats
lmfao it has always been deep you just seem to have never read any lore at all like probably 80% of the playerbase and are now bored but the game has always been focusing on more complex lore than “iT WaS jUst A BuNcH oF dUDes TrYiNG To SuRviVE” yeah sure buddy that was totally the lore of w3 or TBC or any other warcraft game really lmao
These “back in my grandad days” threads are getting even older.
I don’t understand how people are so manipulated by nostalgia to be literally unable to move on.
I will just have to repeat the old mantra that time is not gonna turn back for you or any of us. Accept change, adapt or move along.
Classic is the best you can be offered. If it’s not enough, i think it’s time to call it quits.
I mean i would join you on criticising the problems with the modern game (it should be designed with fun in mind and not esports), but claiming that it was better in the past is not something you will get me to accept. That is a rose tinted memory. The game was far more boring in the past. Your brain just phases out the parts you didn’t enjoy.
Mine didn’t funnily enough. I remember the terrible parts. The auto attack gameplay, the amount of time it took to travel from A to B which disrespected my time, the fact that most specs were unviable at end game, etc.
It wasn’t a fun time. But the internet was in it’s infancy and there were no socials networks or widely available information. So, the game doubled down as a social platform with a game in it.
Times changed, things changed. We can’t go back to that world.
Atleast this “wow must be just orcs and humies fighting” individual is straight with his message.
Imagine building up so much lore only for people to downplay it into “zug-zug”
You grew up, you you changed or you havent changed.
Wow changed
The question you should ask urself:
Why am i keep playing if its bad? Why i just cant let go of it and move on.
Its either you havent changed at all and stuck in a mindset that felt good 10 years ago, or you cant let go of some game that isnt your cup of tea anymore.
I’ve never played WoW for the story or the lore, only for the gameplay, the sense of progression, and the social aspects (playing with friends, making new friends).
I generally feel that most stories in video games are comparatively shallow and generic. There are some exceptions, like the writing in Planescape: Torment, and there were some plots that pulled me in, like the one of Horizon: Zero Dawn, but I turn to books for engaging storytelling, not games.
So what you really disagree with is that the game embraces diversity to a larger degree than it did in the past, that Blizzard have become more sensible to societal and cultural trends, and that they are more mindful (arguably overly so) of not offending and getting “bad press”.
The thing is, though, the “people at the top”, those that control media of all forms, have always “forced their world view down our throats”. What is “shoved down our throats” is just different now than it was twenty years ago. But there have always been agendas and world views that were cultivated, always political or ideological leanings that were promoted and that influenced decisions and directions.
You only notice this now because your own views no longer align with the previously dominant ideologies. The music is different, the radio is the same.
The Warcraft, i remember where blood, honour and thunder ( the drums of war ).
Now, it’s all about an infants feelings, that hasn’t matured to face the world of blood and thunder, for it’s designed to hold them to a world of wonder
I actually agreed with OP, the past was better. Then came the Classic and I was thrilled, made a character there. After a week I deleted that character because then I remembered how it was years ago. Buying skills, buying arrows, oh no, wait… I was not buying those as I didn’t have enough money. 2 silver was a big money for a newbie. I had to grind. Shoot a mob with an arrow, shoot again… oops, “target is too close”. Oops I’m dead. Oops I just went back to retail and wondered what of these 20 different activities I should try next.
Just a few snippets from the most recent expansions. To say that survival against the odds has been outphased as a theme is in WoW… it’s certainly is a choice.
You cant temember the past like it was yesterday, even half of yesterday”s past you remember it based on today”s feelings, its rigged, its not authentic.
In most cases wow wasnt better, in most cases the story of your life was better, much younger, less stress, or the best coping mechanism for trauma.
Now you grew up, life”s harder and you project on wow that is awfull.
Go to classic, see how the illusion break after 1-2 weeks and nostalgia is gone.
Cant say every case, but most cases. You hate retail because you dont accept your curent life as it is, it was easier to accept it back than.
You just carried wow with you, but he changed as also did you
Who speaks? level 20 classic player? are you on trial account mr?
Stop watching asmonbold maybe you will get more brain or info from people doing research showing past expansions and not crying about 1 clip of friendly cartoony dragons this game is deeper then that shallow thinking of yours.
I more or less agreed with you until this snowflake take.
I’m pretty sure I disagree with mostly everything on you, but I love gritty dark themes, like Warcraft 2, but also stories like WC3 (and yes Warhammer etc.).
All politics aside, I agree with you OP.
People will come and belittle you for this opinion, but you’re not the only one to have it.
World of Warcraft has changed in tone, and not in a good way.
