Warlock Beginner need help

Hey, i’m gearing a demonology warlock and i’m lacking upon mobility.

Oftenly when i face class with better mobility i hardly reach him behind pillar , i can try to run but i feel hopeless.

I tried gateway but it not that much efficient too.

A warlock can tell me some tips about that ?
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that doesn’t solve how as warlock reaching people behind pillar

Welcome to playing warlock.

Anyways, pick up the shadow bite traits, play with a succubus and the pleasure trought pain talent and the breath as your major essence.

This build deals most of its damage with instant spells so does not suffer so much from people trying to keep out of your line of sight if you insist on playing demo.

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As dankbolt says succubus build is better when you want to kite and do dmg, imo vs mêlée cleave it’s the way to go or you can’t play the game (the game play of demo is bad doesn’t matter if you are a god at the game).

For 2s imo tyrant is better cause you got a chance to kill someone faster,than with shadow’s bite build. The problem is you have to play with coil to do a long cc chain to prevent your opponent to run away.
And you can’t play port.

When I play big tyrant in 2s, I play with felguard as normal VS casters.
And succubus vs mêlée to get a chance to run with the snare. (be careful succubus die easier than felguaed).

Tbh except if you are a demo lock lover like me, playing demonology will make you mad most of the time and bald xD

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Run before it’s too late.

Everyone in the map has to be in a good position before you burst.

I’d prefer if my kill target was further away from the pillar. I’ll sometimes bait them into a setup by doing this forcing their healer to stand away from his or her beloved pillar

Your own healer needs to be in a good position aswell…sometimes I play with healers that run off to cc the enemy healer just when I’m about ready to burst, the kill target runs off to a pillar and that’s another ramp up time wasted. So, yeah just drag your opponents as far away from the pillar and it’s not always worth going after to chase them around the pillar incase they hard swap you that’s what your pets are for unless they’re low hp in most cases and you have mortal coil to reflect that offensive push on yourself.

Like guys at the top say the shadows bite / saccubus build will make your life alot easier with that slow.

Oh and getting a good damage trinket like claw or male really helps when the target does run off behind pillar atleast you’re doing something when he runs off. It’s all about that perfect setup :slight_smile:

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I’m already on Shadow bite trait and sometime against Rdruid in double DPS arena ( 2V2 cap ) i sometime take felguard since my succubus never want to seduce a cat ^^.

I kinda like this build. But i was wandering do i need someone that bring Mortal wound ( healing reduction) ? Since people tell me that felguard is better for teh Mortal Wounds i can take DH and UH DK.

But i would like to continue with succubus build, i kinda like it to got a insane army with great constant damage unhealable :smile:.

Ah ! when i always saw melee cleave in 2V2 i played with felguard with felstorm and double felguard with felguard talent :joy:.

Wait , i thought Mortal coil was a must have absolute, that mean demonic circle is viable ?

My main is MM hunter and was 2K1 BFA S2 / S3 , so when i test demonology i feel myself OP with that much soul leech ( since MM hunter merely got 0 way to heal himself :joy:).

Late of ?

How did you bait them out ? like you stay away 70 yard of them, send pet to deal dmg to them and when they run into you you summon back the main pet and here come your set up ?

Yea yea but i don’t like doing M+ yet with my warlock ( yet ilevel 446, my cap is still gearing me). so when i gonna be rival i gonna start to farm it :smile: .

You’re going to get PTSD trying to play demonology. You’ll feel like a small child being thrown into a pen of hungry lions.

Wht i seek is not being #1, what i seek is playing a class/spec i love to play and go to my favorite activity : PvP

And arena is one of my favorite activity.

if i wanted win i’ll go play DH / DK / Rogue / Rdruid.

But i want fun before all else

Well port in 3s is just insane, there is no way you can survive when 2people (especially mêlée) are on you cause you can only coil one. You can also get away from chaos bolt/Gpy or if your healer is going to be cc’d if you got awarness.

I play since few weeks with bombers instead of big bladestorm, 30sec is pretty good and Idk why but the dmg from bombers is way better especially when they are multiple target in. (and bombers is not reduced by armor).

Felguard’s ms got pruned too much it’s only 10%reduction which is absolutely nothing.

well so that good actually to play demonic circle with Mistweaver in those cases then.

i’m more a fan of dreadstalker in that line, i feel safier with that if i don’t take bladestorm talent.

For bombers it’s useless if you can’t get a good uptime with it. Dreadstalkers is bad because it brake cc and the dmg is not even good. You better kick big Bs then =D

Yes, I felt and feel the exact same way (demonology is my literal all-time favourite spec in the game), but how can you possibly enjoy being permanently at a HUGE disadvantage while lacking any kind of tool to really outplay anyone (unless they’re missing limbs).

Each to their own I guess. Good luck to ya fine sir! :blush:

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Most cases they’re the ones that come out behind d pillar after they’ve recovered for abit. When I bait them out the bad players don’t realise it so like they normally tunnel vision me when they’re popping their burst they think I’m trying to get away from them bur in I’m just poisoning them in an awkward spot so it’ll take a while from them to escape. Depends what map tbh

You’ll eventually know what I’m talking about once you ppsy enough arenas as demo

druid is the worst healer in the game atm bro

Ehm no actually Not.

Are you sure they arent just smashing their face into the table at the lock counterplay and staying out due to boredom?

I mean this is their rare oppurtunity to fight another warlock spec other than Destro so they might aswell come out and fight instead of being cowards.

We have no real damage outside of cooldowns

Ill be honest, I despise playing against demo and destro. Id say my most unfun matches are any lock and frost/arcane mage. Although ye demo is very rare