That’s the dilemma with “actual casters”. People always complain about Ele, Frost Mage, Boomkin a.k.a. casters with a lot of instants but in an environment where most melees can easily stick to you 24/7 while also able to deal insane amounts of consistent damage and burst, isn’t it kinda necessary to either have instant dmg dealing capability or to be tanky?
The dilemma is also, that with all those hyper mobile melees you HAVE to have instants. The only way casted spells become viable would be if you could keep away melees constantly like a frost mage can. But that would make melee completely miserable to play and turn them to Z tier which also can’t be the way.
Passive Slows, Micro cc/ Pseudo CC/ gap Closers and escape abilitys is out of Controll right now
try to hit as an melee a Mage, and its also not Fun, some classes just got too much
fun fact 95% of the Playerbase/majority does not even use these Kind of spells, or have it on the Bar (so i gladly dont know what the clueless Ion is doing)
i would recomend you to watch Inferniton or Jagzz they both play destro warlock on high level and if you are a demo fan watch bualock for affly im not sure if Maldiva still plays
Not much to learn tbh, reroll war, retri, hunter example
I would prefer if they didnt nerf class thats in b tier
Lock used to be “drain tank” but blizz nerf it with announcement that they dont want drain tanks, it still irks me tbh, spec that has no mobility or hard immunities like mage has to be tanky and with strong self heals like drain life used to be but instead got nerfed to the ground just like soul link has constantly been weakened, we are now becoming to the point where you either have to give locks same mobility and immunities as mage has or we have to start making it more tanky and more self heals or whats the point of playing it if can just play mage instead.
If somebody makes clickbait video where they stomp 1800 lock it means as little as someone making clickbait video of “unplayable guys buff pls” of affli they make 5-1 in shuffles. Who cares, still doesnt mean that affli is even remotely on same level as arms, retri, dh, ele right now. Just use common sense before bring some streamers from 0.1% to the conversation and their clickbait videos.
Its the same thing if I make an yt video of killing some random peon in durotar and name the video as “nerf this class” so that must be of value of course, same thing if people talk about awc when none of us plays in awc or even with specific comps anymore if all play is done in shuffles now for this “arena”.
That won’t help. The main problem is that lock on any specc requires babysitting from everyone. The whole team has to play around the lock to enable him. On low mmr people somply don’t do that. So getting out of mordor mmr is actually hard. I have just seen it myself again. I queued on my main as demo on 2.2 mmr and i got completely fed by everyone (well, maybe except Trille on his hpriest). Then i queued on another lock on way higher mmr (2.350) and went out 4-2. The higher you get, the more managable it becomes because people understand how to play with lock.
Warlock is usually one of the best caster in most PvP seasons…
The meta right now is a non Warlock meta.
Just wait awhile ( season 3 ) maybe and warlocks will probably be really good once again.
Some season they just fall behind cuz of the heavy melee meta.
Most seasons they are actually really good.
Can’t be good every season in this game.
I would be happy if it was at least viable. I don’t even want lock to be OP. I legit hate mirrors which is one of the reasons why i hated BfA S4 the most.
Them bringing some random streamers in discussion in general just mean nothing. Everyone can see that there are far more powerful classes in ladder than lock, so if some r1 has managed make his lock on high ratings it still means nothing on the discussion about power levels.
yeah i personally think warriors are the worst to que into as a warlock , double warrior can feel impossible to beat if you play solo shuffle with low mmr healers , played affly in season 1 , was thinking if i should just play lock to 1800 just for the set but seeing how hard time you guys have il wait if they buff locks
1800 is free, just do it. Its what comes after and if you enjoy seeing dozens of arms, retri, dh, ele lobbyes over and over as only caster in there. And just wait once you realise that none of those retris will give you bop even once or intervene from the wars, thats where you start begin getting tilt for this game and realise that its just better for ones sanity to play something like arms in there. Its not supprise really though that mode with random comps with pugs is worse for classes that need do setups or play as team.
zen made it to r1 when holy priest was utter garbage, so yeah people just give too much meaning about a streamer nowdays
because 1-2 guys make it work, does not mean that everyone can make it work + not everyone have the same teammates as the streamer does
it feels like, in the current world it is so easy too gaslight people, the same happend in df season 1 when People made Dmg breakdown screenshots about Feral dmg, when they played against a Bm, Demo wl or dk
Thread is about lock needing rework or some love in general which I agree, somebody saying “just watch the guy who does clickbait videos for youtube” is pointless to the topic. Thats what I mean. For the record absolute tilt me see clickbait title for video where some r1 guy manages to get b tier spec 5-1 in shuffles and names the video as some joke misleadingly, means absolute nothing in big picture of power structure of classes it only gaslights and misleads just like ppl calling the game as caster meta does.
We have to start making our own youtube videos of slaughtering peons in durotar and making titles for videos to hint it being somehow related to class balances.
He isn’t wrong. You should watch these guys. And listen to them complaining how trash warlock is. I quote Infernion: “if you play lock these days you’re trolling”.
i mean it might sound clueless but watching these guys made me try out lock in the first place , i mean yeah lock is not in good state right now but you can learn few things, position , kiting and how to execute perfect rotation etc
I quote Infernion: “if you play lock these days you’re trolling”.