Warlock pvp

I came back after a break and I’m really curious about the physical way I’m supposed to play this game. When it comes to pvp, this is really the only thing that interests me and motivates to spend time here. The fundamental problem is that my class and specializations are not capable of such content. Playing as a demo or destro warlock is simply not possible and it’s so absurd that it’s even funny. You have no mobility despite the portal with a cooldown of 90 seconds and a
circle with a ridiculous stupid range, which is defensive tool and not other by any means. Also we have unbelievable cast times that don’t even pay off in damage and I wonder how I can keep using something that has to be cast for 2 seconds. Despite everything that has been mentioned, it must be noted that sometimes using just one skill may be simply impossible due to the poor balance of the game, in which the only thing the melee class has to do is run after you and in such a case the effectiveness of everything you do is drastically reduced. Million cc spells and an infinite amount of things that make it easier for each class to move makes it impossible for warlock to play. My dream would be to see how a dev plays it and have a laugh but I think the problem is that no one there even checks such things anymore. Despite that I’m waiting for some comments and maybe advice. Thanks for your attention

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I play a number of ranged dps in pvp. One thing if you’re just coming back is that, this far in the season without full conquest gear all classes will have a terrible time. So maybe wait till S3 if gearing up seems too hard right now.
As for warlock---- you’ve picked a challenging class to pvp - as you say, mobility and cast times are a real factor. That said there are some good defensives and fear…but I would rate warlock as pretty tough to play well. Destro for example is good in BG but shut down in arenas.
The only thing I can suggest is watch videos by well known streamers- Google “destro season 2 PvP guide”— and visit sites like murloc io to see what the most succcesful players are doing with their talent builds.

There are no problems with gearing for me and i know that better items might help but its just sad to see how every single guy is jumping, flying, running, hooking, stunning, silencing you or just doing whatever they want while you are staying and trying to fear them because your port is on cd (as always). Time passes and classes change. It is obvious that everyone should have weaknesses and strengths but at the moment it does not look like that. It seems that the warlock is simply stuck in time while everyone is getting new aspects and doing something fresh. There is a vision that a given class should be good in terms of survivability, but it gives absolutely nothing, because even if you live longer you are not able to do anything due to constant control, as a result of which the possibilities of dealing these large amounts of damage are negligible. Analyzing this, it turns out that the warlock has practically no advantages, at least when it comes to non-professional players who are able to get something out of it. I don’t understand at all why a given class doesn’t adapt considering the changes when every other class does it. Once mages had a problem with rune of power, now its gone. Even dks got mount in combat and there are many similar examples. It just seems to me that the game is poorly balanced and I hope that it will change in the future. I will look for guides since there is no other way

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I read the topic and I can answer it with one simple answer related warlock pvp that its bad. I can try give some pointers from my pov however.

It is capable and viable but its an uphill struggle with its outdated design and the amount of mobility and cc and kicks were now given for all other classes and the fact that warlocks design is still mostly hard casting everything while being stationary turret and they pruned and nerf locks self heals and defensives in general through last few years.

The port and gate we have you need to think to time them during enemies cooldowns so they lose value from their cds and do less damage on you and after that you are at the mercy of your team to have some sense to peel for you and that your healer is capable of healing you in general and understand his basic rotations or priorities of their abilities sadly so its rng on what types of healer you get and if you get an fistweaver then its likely lost as they are no use for most ranged dps at all.

You need addon to track kicks and create weakaura to track precog proc if they miss a kick and you need to make bind for /stopcasting which you press while baiting their kicks with something which you then cancel with this stopcasting and hoping they miss a kick, you can also try figure spells of different schools that you would want them rather use kick on before you use the school you really wanted to use, you need to bait alot kicks and outplay them like this. Some variations they have no choise if you either fear them or if kicked you just continue ramp your dmg, they just have to choose lesser evil.

I also doubt anyone designing this class plays it in pvp but I could aswell be wrong. Im waiting buffs on locks currently for pvp because its among the worst performing classes in pvp, I would not recommend playing lock unless really like the class fantasy or something. There are classes which are multiple times easier and free with overtuned tuning and design right now in pvp, could name few but I take it that you are set on warlock. I wish you luck and hope you found something helpful.

I can’t argue - locks definitely need a rework

The best thing to do is to not play warlock in pvp, the class has been forgotten for quite few expansions now and feels absolutely horrible in pvp, it is by far the easiest to shut down, and even if you line everything perfectly, the dmg is not there.

Basicly, if you like affli playstyle, there is moonkin, if you like affli / destro, there is shadowpriest, or u can roll mage and be a god.

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Thats the problem, speaking of purely mechanics mage can do everything better and has immunities. And it cant be locked down as easily as warlocks.

Blizz nerfing afflis self heals by removing bunch of talents and making drain life completely useless while the class itself doesnt present any more defensives in general than what other classes have and half of them even better. So lock in general is not anymore tankier than any other class even though it has less mobility and has alot casts making it a stationary easy class to tunnel on (turret)

Warlock used to be “drain tank” having less mobility with more self heals and being tanky so it just endured the dmg, since then it has been changed radically and all those aspects removed but nothing given in turn so it could compete with other classes designs.

Problem is on the outdated warlock design being worse than what any other class has mechanics and design wise. I dont suspect they would do major class rework on warlock at this point so the best I can hope is some hefty buffs which might make it competitive against other more superior class designs.

I am an awful PvP’er but am capable of dealing with Warlocks often 1v1. :sweat_smile:

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play MoP classic. the last expansion where pvp was fun, even for warlocks

Yep, they are the punching bags for every other classes and specs now, the situation with locks in pvp is so bad there is nothing else left than to laugh.

It will just get railed by every other spec in the game rotate their cc’s and kicks as team in perfect harmony like synchronized olympic swimmers, and for half of the round you dont cast anything cause you are prevented to do anything.

The lock just tries to wiggle itself into a situation he could at least start try something for 4 seconds and sometimes even that brief moment gets prevented and there is nothing to do than laugh in disbelief :joy:

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that is probably a true statement .my friend has said same thing . warlocks and monks were op in mop.

I watched the best player guides and it turns out that there are many things in this game that I didn’t know about. For example, there is apparently an enchant called pregonictiton, which radically changes the situation. After someone kicks (blocks) your action, they can’t do it for the next few seconds. Maybe I’m just stupid because one of the best players says that this class and specialization is simply underrated. So I’ll listen to advice and try to play

Mentioned that on first reply to you, I suggest also looking into about baiting kicks.

You are not, nor asking questions or showing interest to improve would be either, on the contrary its the opposite.

Sadly no matter what one video guide would said, statistically and also in practise which you soon will find out warlocks currently are below or hoovering around mid tier on the terms of what comes to power levels in current meta

You can improve alot on warlock and other specs dont really need to improve alot to beat you, you can still climb on warlock you just need to work harder as it is amongst worst classes currently. It either need alot overhaul or major buffs on defensives and dmg, the way it sends dmg is its weakest point however as its all casts.

Warlock rework coming to an azeroth inn near you in year 2077 .stay tuned

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