Warlock vs. rogues

How?

Just… how?

WHAT can I do about rogues as warlock? I try every CC I have, they stun me, they release, they sap, stab, and I am dead. This happens like 4 times in a row in ST graveyard. How the… isn’t there ANYTHING I can do to survive at least?!

Like, life drain = completely USELESS. Can’t heal against rogue with it. Rogue has like 5% HP and life drain doesn’t kill it or make its HP go down.

They don’t stay stunned. They can’t be escaped. What… honestly, WHAT am I supposed to do?? Why does blizz let these OP things roam free in BGs and then make a punching bag class that can’t even move 1 cm before being ganked AGAIN in stun in the graveyard?

And why don’t ally players ever come when someone calls inc?

What is with these ridiculous BGs? Why are they allowed to rot to be this bad, they could be SO glorious! Why? What? How? Please tell me… advice me… tell me what spells I can use to at least survive more than the usual 0.7 seconds against 2 rogues as warlock.

What the… I can’t understand this at all, why is it like this? WHO designed BGs, I demand to know names!

As far as I’m aware Rogue v Warlock has always been a traditionally bad match up for the Warlock.

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I have a destro warlock friend that destroys rogues on a regular basis

Play Demono.

Rogues pick locks for a reason!

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Warlocks are not a strong 1v1 class to begin with, and as someone else said rogues have traditionally been strong Vs warlocks.

Destro is your best bet as the mastery provides extra tankiness

Traditionaly how? In TBC/WotLK/Cata(till rogues got legendaries)/MoP/WoD 2 out of 3 warlock specs could give rogues run for their money.
Traditionaly warlocks was not good in 1v1…well true. Warlocks was extremely good for 1v1.

Agree they were good 1v1 till Cats. Rogues generally always beat them anyway

This is BS, because in MOP/WoD Demo was anti rogue spec, destro was extremely decent against Rogs.

Any back row cloth wearing character is always going to be targeted first by a rogue.

In TBC/WotLK/Cata/MoP/WoD rogues only had easy time with mages among all cloth classes. Even SP could outplay rogues in the most dire Xpacs in the opening. Warlocks despite being cloth was always extremely tanky, and rogues till legion always had problems with tanky classes.
But since legion blizzard decided to make rogues jack of all trades and master of all.
While some classes like warlocks retained their weak sides and lose some of good ones, CC for example.

Just think of it as evolution of the game as a whole. Mages used to be very, very easy pickings. Not so anymore. Warlocks do massive damage so it’s to be expected.

Massive how? Right now all warlock specs require a massive ramp up, Demo particular. Their damage is easy to shut down. The fact that destro therroised arenas and BGs in 8.3 was a thing only because affli and demo was unplayable on high rated PvP. If any other spec of warlock was decent in 8.3 destro would have been nerfed to the ground in the blink of the eye.

Warlocks suffer from poor design, not bad numbers. Right now numbers could be ok, or good. But no other class in game suffer from same ramp up mechanics or bugs like warlock.
Look at demo for example. You can break Tyrant AI just by LoS him.

We are talking about being in PVP here. I have a Warlock myself so I know how good they can be with the right support. Rouges kill me, yes. But that’s the way it is.

Why in the world warlock should have support in order to be good, while rest of the classes are compedetive without support?
Rogues don’t need support
Palas don’t need support
Warriors don’t need support
Druids don’t need support
Mages don’t need support
Monks don’t need support
DH don’t need support
DK don’t need support
Hunters don’t need support
Shamans don’t need support

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If you think that then you are very wrong and need to play more PVP.

you need to kite melee as a lock.

Playing night fae helps a lot with this and make sure to use slows.

I not just need to kite them, i need to place gateways, circle, prepare my burst rotation, gather resources, fake cast, slow them and many more things as a warlock. But thing is, with current warlock toolkit one mistake and you are done.

With the corruption legendary I’m actually having a really easy time vs melee in BGs.

One mistake with any class and your done, pretty much.