Warmode should be removed, bring back PvP realms

Warmode no longer has any reason to stay in this game.

It was new, tested, tried, but earned nothing.

Overall nothing changed. Some shards owned by Alliance, some owned by Horde.

It was the same before Warmode.

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Agreed.

I had hoped warmode would be the answer to world PvP as I’m sure the devs did.
In principal the system seemed good, but now after its been in use for a while, I much prefer realms for PvP and pve

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It allowed people stuck on PvP realms (none of which are balanced) to actually play the game without having to transfer - It earned exactly that.

And let’s be honest, if it weren’t for the “bonus”, people wouldn’t enable it at all, bar some select occasions that happen every now and then.

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Blizzard are too focused on profiteering from realm transfers and saving money on server infrastructure with phasing/sharding thus fixing pvp modes and realm balance is an afterthought for them.

Blizz pretty much has given up on factions and shard balance. People are speculating that they will most likely do away with factions all together in 9.0. Oh well Blizzcon this year is going to be a treat, as long we don’t have to have phones to see it.

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War mode is maybe BFA’s greatest feature imo.

You may say it isn’t balanced, but which PvP server was ? At least now people can freely opt in and out rather than pay server transferts

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I like warmode. It allows me, who was always on a PvE realm, to sometimes opt into world PvP.

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I suppose it doesn’t take much to be a greatest feature in this expansion.

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Can’t argue with that, but it’s still a great feature by all account

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PvP servers were too fixed, but WM is too dynamic. We are going to need a balance between those and ofc better sharding.

Although I do wonder how many of the complainers really played on PvP servers before (not perse in this topic, but overall).

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There has not been this much world pvp in the 13 years that I have played on a PvP server before warmode. I don’t know what you are smoking but the warmode feature is one of the best things about BFA.

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Warmode sharding is so beyond belief broken, i’ve played exclusively on PvP realms since i started playing in TBC and Warmode just killed any and all enjoyment for world pvp

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I think is the click on/off ability that causes a lot of the problem. Reset day hits, Alliance get their free gear quest, loads turn WM on and go on pack gankfests then when done, they turn it off. I’ll freely admit to being salty that as my chars are in the RP shard where Alliance outnumber Horde 3 to 1 they still get that quest as the faction balance is apparently irrelevant to the decision making.
With PvP realms you didn’t tend to have that seemingly endless zerging as you ended up in battles just playing the content over the week so if the same quest existed it just wouldn’t be necessary. In the past it wasn’t unusual to see realms locked down to only one faction for new players to try and balance the numbers but that seems to be completely ignored with the thinking on sharding.

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Earned nothing? How about being able to switch shards if the one you are currently in is dominated by the other faction without realm transfer? How about being able to opt in or out of world PvP if you dont feel like it without a realm transfer? It earned exactly what it was supposed to. There is definitely more work to be done on shard balancing though and it will be good (if even possible).

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It should not this makes 0 sense i was on pvp realm before and i yet ot have seen 0 horde i like war mode if you do not turn it off because since BFA/war mode i see horde daily and kill daily not like before i never seen horde on my pvp realm.

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Love war mode :+1:

Don’t want pvp servers back :-1:

I think wm will appeal most to players that appreciate words like; chaos, carnage, random, killing spree, murderize, no rules, etc.

But will appeal less to players that appreciate words like; pve, bonus, fair, balance, bg, arena, rules, etc.

Pretty sure blizz designed wm for the chaos lovers!

Use the toggle.

And, we have a forum for wm…

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25% bonuses in warmode would like a word with your statement, horde dominate most WM phases thanks to alliance PVP participation out right suffering hence why its gone from 20 to 25% with this reset.

The only time there has been 0 horde in my phase is during when the PVP event happens to start and suddenly its like they’ve all made a raid and phased elsewhere :slight_smile:

Warmode will never be balanced as long as you have premade group finder and people hop into raid/farms.So that goes without saying.The players will always go for the easiest way(least amount of effort) to get things done.Everyone talks about balance,but none actually want it.

But as people said it alowed people who where stuck with pvp realms to opt out of them.And just look for PvE content and like minded people.

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I think warmode is better than separate servers - because it lets you “move” between servers without spending real money - but I agree that the so-called world PVP ultimately deteriorated to the same dumb thing it was on the servers.

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I’m sure Warmode is fantastic fun if you just happen to be lucky enough to play a class with the tools to enjoy it. Trying roaming around solo as a frost mage, you’ll soon decide it’s just not worth it. Blizzard, If you want to push WPVP then you need to make every class viable for it, not just shrug your shoulders and state that 1v1 is too hard to balance.

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