Warrior in m+ seems pretty weak compared to other meta classes, to balance it, in my opinion, some buff would be a great start. Maybe uncapping whirlwind or making 4set stronger.
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warrior is just fine in M+ its in raid we struggle
I play with fury alot in m+ as a tank. They absolutely slam. Tho I will agree with you that at its core, warrior might be a little weak, I’m not quite sure. Most of their damage is spear of bastion, cus op. And I mean 40% of their damage is SoB.
But seeing as we still have access to borrowed power, fury is perfectly fine in m+.
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Once the packs live longer and you are out of cds there is nothing about big damage. Fury is fine but it simply lacks damage in higher keys to be taken after SV and Destru. My SV 254 and only 2 Set is already nearly simming the dps my warrior does
Everything above +20 is a struggle too keep up with the signature AOE classes, even frost/fire mages outdps us if the packs survive longer then our 20-30sec burst window. (And if unlucky in Signet proc)
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Sure, I’ve heard the rng signet proc can be a little annoying. Tbh I can only agree with you on keeping up on bosses when it’s tyrannical week. packs on fortified don’t take that long either.
No one can keep up with locks and hunters. I can’t really talk about mages cus I don’t have a friend that plays one. (I don’t pug). I can only tell you what I’ve experienced with fury and from what I’ve seen they actually need a nerf on spear of bastion if you ask me. It’s hilariously OP on trashpacks.
Nerfing SoB will be the death of both warrior specs.
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Spear is the only thing that keeps Warrior competetive. Without it the damage would be even worse then BM. And when you Play some keys 22+ you can see ist only helps to overpass the tank after cds used. Wl can just Spam rain, SV can spam bomb proccs. Fury just cleave to 5 targets. Fury and spear is only really strong with lower pullsize.
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i agree. I do 5-6kk dmg only with spear and its 20-25% of overall. SV does 40-60% with just bomb lol
i could make up even more point to this. For example the Power-gain.
Fury full tset brings about 2K in AE, you can just sim that.
SV i dont know about 2 set, but on my alt 4 set brings more then 10K. Only 4 set. I was checking that bcos i amhunting for hands with my SV.
Round about the simdps gain in AE from Set alone is like 2k (Fury) to 15k (SV).
But as you look at the legendarys, Warrior has one of the best if not the best if not the best
cov legendary. This + Spear and WW Conduit is the only thing we were S Tier in 9.1.5. and still A Tier now. But as you can see - the more Power other classes were gaining, the less Warrior has an impact.
You can aswell see this in completed key. While Fury is the most played in timed 15s, its participation goes down the higher the keylevel. Fury is really fine for PUG to 20 level, but when you start pulling big, Fury lacks harsh at substained AE. Even sub Rogues have more funnel.
Imagine Warrior without a Spear, this would kill the class completely. Edit: Even with Spear Pro Warrior is the worst tank.
That’s the harsh faith of warrior in almost every xpack. (yes I said almost because we all know there are exceptions…)
They start descent too strong-ish and then as other classes get more tools they just dissapear slowly into the abyss of forgettable classes…
DPS DK usually has the same faith, but this xpack they got the TLC they needed too make them viable.
Ye, its long ago Warrior had a really big Itemlevel scaling. Im okay with it though, i just dont get the ppl saying: Nah Warrior is fine, because they only see Furys blasting 15-20s. Even the ST of Fury is garbo, or DPS-Warr in general.
When i want to pump 200K AE, ill go play my SV.
It’s exactly those ppl that cry and even ask to nerf warrior…
It’s the ppl that play meta slave specs/classes and get absolutely demolished by a fury warrior, then they go cry in the forums. Mimimmi fury is broken, it outdpses destro wl mimimim. Meanwhile every other player with half a brain notices what happened (or looks up WCL) and realises. Wow this dude 
yeah, its interesting to watch when making an alt. I got my SV 60 few days ago and im farming lowkeys for T now. I can see so much SV’s and Destrus which manage to make 10K or less overall with 4 Set already, 260+ GS. Meanwhile im doing 13-15k with 255 gs and 2Set, 226 Conduits.
Im not the best player though by far, but i can get these ways why ppl. have no real picture of a class.
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Tbh you can’t judge anything being bad right now with locks and hunters this overpowered in keys. Not untill they get tuned will you see how good other specs really are.
Last time I did a key as unholy for once (my gear ain’t perfect for dps since I basically only have tank gear for the good part of 6 years now) but a SV hunter managed to deal more dmg than me on a ST boss fight in a 20. Seeing as how that’s UH dk’s biggest thing, to clap bosses, I’d say SV should be tuned a little. Their tier set is absurd.
I guess we’ll have to see how viable warrior and everything else is when the new xpac comes out and the cov abilities are gone. For now, I love bringing a fury to my keys (even tho they yeet aggro off me almost instantly on every pull). Downside of playing bdk I suppose.
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