Aggro issues on both Arms and Fury in both Raid and M+ are extremely bad at the moment.
Most of the time I pull aggro on packs 24/7 even after I wait for the tank to spend 4-5 gcds in the pack, meanwhile I see other classes not struggling with this at all.
This problem really needs to be addressed because it’s ruining my fun to the point where I am constantly wondering if I should just uninstall or not.
You need to reduce the amount of threat we generate because dying as soon as I send my cooldowns is just extremely disappointing.
While I feel you, it is a problem I run into time to time. Well, quite rarely recently after the nerfs upon nerfs - while tanks geared up and got comfortable in the dungeon pool. That babble aside, even as you do actually grab threat, this is not a ‘you’ issue as much as a tank issue.
All tanks can manage and hold threat of Fury Burst DPS if you give them the bare minium time to do so. Example would be to allow a BDK to drop his Death and Decay (red circle on floor) and a boneshatter effect into bloodboil. Sure, you hold for 3-4 seconds, but from that point on (gear difference aside) there should be no threat issues. My best advice is to just one rotation of:
Tank starts to gather, I charge in, whirlwind, do a BT, mobs started to gather, I raging blow, raging blow, Rampage - and then if the tank seems set up - I push my big dam button. If it seems like tank is still gathering (strays running from melee camp after casters, as an example), I simply do a BT into RB and decide if or not the tank seem ready.
You could still grab threat from a target if you push all your focus damage during the AoE portion, but this is easily avoided by simply swapping target once in a while during the opening part of the pull. Don’t worry about 1 boss fights, as the tank will taunt on the opener and there is no way for him to lose threat. It is only a problem when there are multiple targets and the tank is basically doing “half” his damage to everything, while you as a Fury warrior is doing your “full” damage to the focus target. Over time and with some crits, you could manage to rip threat from the tank.
In short:
Tank bad = bad time, no matter what
Give the tank time to gather and do his opening snap threat move
Manage your Single Target Focus threat by simply changing target
If bad tanks is the problem, you give them plenty of leeway to get going, then just know it gets better the higher up in keys you go. At the 10-11 range, I have not had any real problems. I simply do not do that much damage that threat is a problem.
If lacking ‘that’ damage is a good thing? I will leave that up to you to decide
This was a well known issue in Shadowlands expansion. Blizzard fixed it in Dragonflight and we were playing normally similar to other classes with ZERO issue.
Now, the exact same aggro issue appears one more time! Blizzard has to sort it out again.
We had these threat issues all the way since Legion. Doesn’t change the fact you can play around it without any issues - as long the tank isn’t bad.
All I said is true
Hate the game, not the player hate the problem, not the solution
“Play extremely different than any other dps, and basically stay afk for 20% of the duration of each pack so you don’t have issues, and that’s the solution my brain managed to come up with”.
If that is the only way you can manage to handle this problem, so be it.
I understand you are being hyperbolic, yet - many actually believe there is a huge issue from just word of mouth alone. Let’s do our best not to spread misinformation, ye?
That aside, Fury do play different from any other spec in the game - and that is a good thing. If you want flat, there are plenty of options. Don’t advocate to make Slayer Fury just one of the flock - just because you personally have issues with how it currently plays. Cause’ I enjoy how it is, I in fact want it even more pronounced. I am team ‘revert the nerfs, let Fury AoE burst’.
If you dont wan’t that, and still want to play Fury - play Thane
My charge, right now, looks like an AoE taunt. Honestly, fury has serious threat issues no matter how you look at it. Me, and many other warriors know how to play their class and handle our threat with every dps class, and we all agree on threat issues for fury.
I can bust the second the tank comes in, but i have to wait for half the pack’s duration to come in sometimes.
hate the problem, not the solution