How do you beat this skilled class in 2v2? i’m at 2300 cr and 50% of the games is against DH’s its unbeateble or is there any strategy?
You can’t outdamage them, you cant outmana them you cant ever touch them.
Rogues are currently really good but atleast you have a win condition against them. All classes but DH have some weakness, whats up with them being able to go into the air every 45 sec, Blur 1 min cd auto dodge on every 5th ability.
How do you beat his class as a Warrior? They make up 50% of the queues.
I’m okay with loosing against Rogues who set up good, but DH literally does nothing but run at healer press blurr on cd and auto win. It would not be the biggest deal but they are 50% of the queues.
Sit on DH, Stormbolt them when they use Fel Erupt on your healer to stop burns since they have the same CD. Then maybe win in damp due to MS as long as your healer is decent.
wait for blizzard to remove leech as a stat. Remove it from having chance to proc on gear when it drops and remove it from DHs meta and remove rogues leech poison.
outgear them is probably the only option and it is not up to you if they farm pve harder than you
well 2v2 just has hard counters like it always did. Cannot do much about it. 3v3 has less hard counters and adds a variable that can make mistakes to capitalize on
So i’m supposed to hold my globals til he stuns? Because thats the only way thats possible. It’s not mana we loose on usually its the unhealeble damage. Evertime you or your healer try to set something up they just press their fly up to the moon spell, and thats over.
And thats only possible 50% of the time the rest he will incap you before. It’s not like you can race healer, Warriors just cannot touch any healer whatsoever. 30-40% of the dmg is gushing 15% fel lance. Its unavoidble damage. How they do their rotation does not matter it literally does not matter at all.
1 min evasion, auto dodge every fifth global. Unlimited mobility, you are aware they kite you whenever they want if they have half a braincell?
The other problem is they just don’t take damage the few globals you get in because the meta uptime is around 70% and they heal it up with just pressing their pve rotation. Rets have their wings up around 30% of the time and are balanced that way. DH has it up all the time.
We are really trying everything, we are just never even close it’s just not any win condition whatsoever. We lose to rogues 65% of the time but there is a win condition there. It’s so demoralizing to know you have no chance as soon as you enter the arena.
We have played 65 games this week, 31 of those games are against DH’s. Its impossible, it does not matter how you play, against rogues you can do really good plays like storming kidney, preleap their stun, pre avatar their stun, be sure to be in d-stance when kidney comes up against DH you can not leave D-stance. What play can you do against DH that has any impact whatsoever.
How do you create a win condition against Demon Hunters? If you disrupt the opener against rogue you have a great chance and if you don’t oh well its a an uphill battle but atleast there is something you can actually do.
What comp is scarred of an Arms Warrior in 2v2 these days? It’s one of the most iconic pvp speccs in this game but i’ve never felt this weak before. I can send you breakdown of our last game, my executes hits the same as their gushing tics.
Typical insecure response.
I have no issues admitting defeat, be it a fault of my own or the other 50% of my team, which self absorbed dogs like yourself seem to forget exists.
Or god forbid maybe they were just a better player than me.
Sure non of your loses were to Warriors either right?
Noone on 2300 has less than full gushing and two ra’den weapons. I play this game to PvP i work fulltime i don’t have time to join a mythic raiding guild to be able to play the part of the game i enjoy. Warrior has a hardcounter it’s called Mage and it’s always been Mage. What does Warrior hardcounter? I got nothing. It’s okay to have hardcounters but even against Mages you can win if you play great. Against Demon Hunter we have tried every different specc, gear, talents. Even tried racing healer a few times but Warrior have no way of staying on healers for more than 5 seconds because we get solo’d and kited we got no way of sustaning ourselves. And DH’s plays with Hpala/Rdruid, Paladin takes literally and i do mean literally no damage from a Warrior a Mortal Strike does 2-3% of their hp, and druids yeah you can’t even touch so there is no point in trying. We just leave if we face them with a Druid, because in between meta,Fly to the moon, blurr and auto dodge there is thorns.
I’m glad their giving the most iconic Arms Warrior debuff to DH’s next expansion really looking forward to that. Thats something they desperately need. I’m sure we’ll get our AoE stun back to balance it out, right?
I actually play with my brother who is a Disc Priest, and they have zero chance of escaping against a Warrior I might tell you.
The warriors I face usually play with a MW as well - and that is how you win.
Paralysis + Song of Chi-Ji + Leg Sweep + Grapple Weapon means the DH doesn’t have a lot of uptime (and that is just from the Monk).
Before the gushing vendor i was able to damp them, and win late game by stopping mana burns, and play defensive.
Now due to gushing you will not be able to win in dampening because they’ll simply outdmg you anyways. Especially when they are paired with a holy paladin, well thats a disgusting hardcounter.
You can still win if they manage to ** up every defensive cd
I love fighting rogues tho, thats a fun matchup because you can actually do stuff, but if the rogue is playing with a holy paladin they can just kidney - hoj - rep and kill you with gushing, + the holy pally dmg.
But hey, you can train destruction warlocks to death, thats a +
edit: as rakar said, try to disarm every meta eye bream procc, usually they go for a mana burn with that haste so save stormbolt for that(if you want to damp them)
also play spell reflect in case they play fly
