Wasted 25K on Heirlooms, leveling was not faster AT ALL

By the look of your gear doesn’t even look like you know what bfa is, no progress at all, pluss WOD was the worst xpac unsub then and don’t play the game if it’s that sad for you, none is forcing you to play.

No you did not. The fastest method is non heirloom auto quester and it takes 5 and a half hour. With looms 8 minutes more :).

Doesn’t matter when you’re also 100% weaker. From my experience, level 3 alts exclusively through Island Expeditions; it took 6-7 IE’s per level without looms and 6-7 with looms with the exception of when you’re rested.

That is correct, from multiple sources including tons of fine folks from Reddit and my own experience.

If we’re going only by sub numbers than BFA is the worst as it struggled to stay above 1.5M subs. ATM Machine Learning says 3.5M fastly growing each day due to Classic of course.

That is your mistake. You’re not using the heirloom properly and neither the levelling options available.
You can’t blame the tools for your actions.

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Enlighten me how it’s not being used, and please read the other thread and reddit. You can fanboy here forever but the facts state heirlooms do not work as advertised. I got a 65% xp bonus but actually did not. If I did I had a way faster experience in IE. Maybe I did but the heirlooms handicapped me to the point where their xp boost is useless. So a net gain of 0% xp or rather -2%.

You do realize that IE’s are pure XP fests. It should be the fastest way to level if Heirlooms worked as advertised or rather as before 7.2.5 the worst patch to date with all this scaling. They only need to buff up the heirlooms to be stronger so you’re not handicapped and you will reap the benefits once more.

It is faster to level with heirlooms if you quest/level, but you have to wear your azurite pieces while you go round questing, and then put your heirlooms back on before turning the quests in, (if you do that you will also see the difference in XP between wearing heirlooms and not wearing them). To level from 110-120 with xp heirlooms, + 30% warmode will mean doing one full zone story quests (I did Drustvar), the 3 war campaigns you get as you go along, and part of one other zone, I did the Tiragarde sound bit up to the part where you go back to expose Prascilla. You can make it faster still if you use the potions for an extra 10%, and you can actually start from 111 because legion invasions still work until then and give you 110-111 + try and have full rested XP and if you have a gem slot get the 5% xp gem + if the faire is up you can get that too.

Not sure islands are taking into account any xp buffs, although not tested it, but it would be easy enough to, but I have a feeling they just award a set level of xp which is based on your level and not what you are wearing or any buffs you have.

No I didn’t. I though he was referring to WOD only.

I’m not fanboy anything here, and i’m not the only one telling you that spam island with heirloom is not the best way to level.

Who said that? I don’t recall this being an advertised by blizzard claim, neither is listed on the IE table.

So you’re expecting the heirlooms to work as in a previous expansion? Why not rollback everything to Pandaria? I’m sure do only 5 levels is much quicker.

Retail lvling is pointless, boring faceroll through dead zones.

Meanwhile classic is longer but WAY more enjoyable and not that braindead.

Im not against bfa, but lets be serious… retail wow is so broken in many aspects.

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yeah it is leveling is one part, and yes it is horribly boring to level, when all items you find is most of the time usless, and you only waiting to be able to go to next expac and continue to level.

I disagree. In no point in my WoW career, started in '05, has levelling ever been that great to do. It was long and boring in Vanilla, even more so when you had to grind mobs to even move out of a zone into the next, and is still mindless and boring now.

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I mean… retail is so heavy end game oriented that lvling 1-120 feels like its pointless process. Ofc. Classic is also end game oriented but gap between lvl 1 content and lvl 60 is way, WAY smaller than retail. It really looks like all WoW needs is … sequel with fresh mechanics and engine.

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Wod was litterally the worst expansion ever. Ok ill give you the alts but i actually like the current leveling system mabye a few tweaks in increased damage but thats it.

Wod had the biggest content drought ever and there was nothing to do expect raiding.

Without or without leveling aids like heirlooms, you’re spot on the money - 1 to 120 is a big grind. They could maybe make it so all new characters start at lvl 20 like new allied races do. Maybe ilvl squish the old mobs more… but that wouldn’t make up for the god awful zones in vanilla and older expansions. Where it is like: kill some mobs here, run back, run back to where you were, kill some more mobs there again, repeat repeat… you spend most of your time traveling.

It’s not that you could play alts, you HAD to play alts if you wanted any kind of content, because after clearing every mythic dungeon + raid, there was no pve content at all.

There are a few things that were better in WoD, like class design and pvp vendors, but overall it was just a hot garbage (and BfA is not even close to being that bad, even with all the issues it has) and most people (who didn’t unsubbed) only logged in to send their garrison followers on missions.

as much as it pains me to say… wod had better class design and a better leveling process

and from all i witness during uldir and now have seen on several streams and videos from eternal palace, also superior raidboss designs… like seriously, just looking at behemoth and radiance just makes me go “who the feck thought those designs were fun?” …and then there is azshara, because apparently someone thought, that LoSing was a fun mechanic to play every three seconds

just looking at that made me very steadfast in the decision, that i do not want to actually progress that boss and very happily will not consider coming back into my guilds raidteam

Ok so first of leveling GREATLY depends on what you are leveling.
DH can level up to 120 with full hierlooms without loosing speed. Pet classes can do it too. Few others as well.

Some classes like warrior have to swap to azerite pieces at ~114.

And only a priest is a garbage that needs to drink stamina flask to not die from critter auto attack.

BUT it also depends on what gear you have at the start. With mythic antorus gear you will get your first upgrade by 118-119 level (unless something procs).

So this data is pretty much bollocks. I leveled all classes to 120, fastest took me 4h 30m while most of them were below 5h (consumables, drums, legion legendaries).

I usually finished about 3/4 of Nazmir and always going Zuldazar -> Nazmir.
Guides about leveling are wrong suggesting to start with Voldun. Because now, you don’t even step a single foot in Voldun. And questing there is definitely the worst.

Trust me, WOD WAS A LOT WORSE.

but yea. bfa was certainly a downfall in comparison to legion. but at least they’re trying.

Problem with BFA leveling 111-120 is the horrible power creep, where you “level down” making you weaker by every ding. Heirlooms have made this feel even worse by being so weak in power compared to azerite items. You can get xp boost from them for sure but trade off is even worse and slower killing of mobs on especially higher end of 111-120 scale that nullifies lot in time of what heirlooms give on xp boost. Feels bad. :disappointed_relieved:

Well that’s wrong and clearly your perception. Go level one without looms and you’ll see it’s much slower. Mind, flying is what makes all the difference.

Edit: You spammed islands? Oh silly thing they nerfed that a while ago. Just quest.

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I remember upgrading a weapon in Legion. That was a laugh.

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