By the way, I am not certain why Malfurion said "Tell her, we are coming for her!"? I mean, we all know that he is not going to siege Orgrimmar and bring Sylvanas to justice. He can't even secure Darkshore, good luck even getting to Orgrimmar. Typical Night Elves, only words, 0 results.
What should we get from that?
That the Void Lords are sociopaths who want Alleria to kill her loved ones because they are the cosmos' greatest and most ancient evil? They also demanded that Alleria kill Turalyon and Vereesa.
We will see very soon, when the boy king offers you another lie.
Another lie? Do tell me what the first lie was.
05/11/2018 18:52Posted by
Soflay There is something weird about her. Everyone is pointing at her, she is on top of the wanted list. But have you thought about the motive, the drive force thats behind it all? We know that Alleria's whispers went crazy when near her. Void infused Alleria getting whispers demanding to take her down. What should we get from that? We will see very soon, when the boy king offers you another lie.
Get it out of your head that she is some sort of goddess anti hero saviour that will redeem herself in some edgy !@# way by saving every single thing on Azeroth. No.
05/11/2018 18:52Posted by
Soflay There is something weird about her. Everyone is pointing at her, she is on top of the wanted list. But have you thought about the motive, the drive force thats behind it all? We know that Alleria's whispers went crazy when near her. Void infused Alleria getting whispers demanding to take her down. What should we get from that? We will see very soon, when the boy king offers you another lie.
Get it out of your head that she is some sort of goddess anti hero saviour that will redeem herself in some edgy !@# way by saving every single thing on Azeroth. No.
The role of "Savior of the Universe" is already reserved for King Anduin Wrynn of Stormwind, High-King, the Son of the Wolf, destined to lead the Alliance in the final battle against the hated Void Lords for the fate of the entire cosmos.
05/11/2018 18:57Posted by
Arctur <span class="truncated">...</span>
Get it out of your head that she is some sort of goddess anti hero saviour that will redeem herself in some edgy !@# way by saving every single thing on Azeroth. No.
The role of "Savior of the Universe" is already reserved for King Anduin Wrynn of Stormwind, High-King, the Son of the Wolf, destined to lead the Alliance in the final battle against the hated Void Lords for the fate of the entire cosmos.
Why do you think that? He can’t do it alone?
05/11/2018 18:57Posted by
Arctur ...
The role of "Savior of the Universe" is already reserved for King Anduin Wrynn of Stormwind, High-King, the Son of the Wolf, destined to lead the Alliance in the final battle against the hated Void Lords for the fate of the entire cosmos.
Why do you think that?
Because the (CANON) comic "Son of the Wolf" takes place many decades after the conclusion of Legion and shows a grizzled High-King Anduin Wrynn leading the Exodar in seizing the last and best chance they have at stopping the shadows?
05/11/2018 19:02Posted by
Arctur ...
Why do you think that?
Because the (CANON) comic "Son of the Wolf" takes place many decades after the conclusion of Legion and shows a grizzled High-King Anduin Wrynn leading the Exodar in seizing the last and best chance they have at stopping the shadows?
I knew nothing about this, will have to look into it :) thank you.
Another lie? Do tell me what the first lie was.
In my opinion, it was when he decided there is war needed to be fought.
05/11/2018 19:06Posted by
Soflay Another lie? Do tell me what the first lie was.
In my opinion, it was when he decided there is war needed to be fought.
When did that happen?
It would be Sylvanas who is lying then. She is the one convinced that there must be a war to end all wars, hence why she wanted to destroy Darnassus and kill every last man, woman and child in Stormwind City, to ensure that the Alliance would no longer pose a threat and the cycle of hatred would end.
05/11/2018 18:54Posted by
Arctur By the way, I am not certain why Malfurion said "Tell her, we are coming for her!"
He did not.
He said: "Tell her, we are coming"!
This is a threat with an open ending, i.e. how the Night Elves will do this and where exactly, is for them to know and Sylvanas to find out ^^
I thought I'd explain, unless
human potential may not suffice to figure this out :p
But who lead the attack on lordearon ? The tree burned down in the aftermath of the attack.
No It didn't, It's the opposite.
He said: "Tell her, we are coming"!
This is a threat with an open ending, i.e. how the Night Elves will do this and where exactly, is for them to know and Sylvanas to find out ^^
This is an empty threat that will lead nowhere, since the battle ends in status quo despite the little edgy moment of Malfurion and Tyrande.
In fact, I am pretty sure that Sylvanas doesn't give a crap about Malfurion's little charade, and is focused solely on stopping Anduin Wrynn's grand invasion of Dazar'alor, since she knows that if she loses Darkshore, it is not a big deal, but if she loses the Golden Fleet, she loses the war.
Still I want you to know that I understand you, Night Elf fans. If Humans were as miserable and worthless as your race, I, too, would rejoice after a (brief) cinematic that painted my race in a light that is not negative at the very least.
Just realized I got that wrong (played the timeline in my head). You are right.
05/11/2018 19:37Posted by
Soflay Just realized I got that wrong (played the timeline in my head). You are right.
But don't worry, Anduin is literally unable to tell lies because if he does his Light-infused bones will hurt.
So if Anduin complains about his bones hurting, that is a red flag. Until then, It's all fine.
What do you think about sylvanas weilding the xal'atath? What can we read from that ?
loved the video, great how scary it makes malfurion out to be. Don't want to make an enemy out of him. The horde dun goofed.
On the other hand maybe someone ought to warn the night elves about the fact that those who fight monsters need to beware they don't become monsters and all that. I like to think someone did and Malfurion was just NOPE LAST STRAW NOW IM ALL IN TIME TO BURY SOME ORCS ALIVE
For there to be a 27th time, there -has- to be a first time, by definition.
Yes, but they went to Horde war camp after the first attack on the supply convoy. They didn't awaited the 27th :)
What do you mean by 'Decent Story'?
War of Thorns. Attacked, went into the wisp wall, attacked it relentlessly and went around. Competent general.
Siege of Lordaeron. Attacked, almost died, deus ex machina, attacked again, almost died again, deus ex machina. Idiotic general.
Since Cataclysm they pus some thought and work into Horde part of story. They put some deus ex machina on Alliance part and called it even.
And about Villain bat. You (and with you I meant Horde players) wanted to be conquerors. Conquerors are villains, until enough time passes and they can rewrite the history.
I mean if you -want- that on the Alliance, that's cool. Would be nice to play the Horde actually getting a big Win, but the instant Blizz move in that direction, People complain. I mean the cinematic -shows- One. Let me just emphasise that, -One- Alliance Hero just going through a group of Horde soldiers like paper and people are -still- complaining about it? What is it you want? You want Horde story complexity, but don't want to suffer a hit? That's what Horde story complexity -IS-.
You want that? You're welcome to it. It has got tiring having it hammered home every expansion since TBC.
You know what I want? I want one victory of Alliance against Horde. Did you noticed that no decisive victory happened against Horde? Purge of Dalaran was not against Horde, was against Horde assigned Dalaran citizens. SoO was horde against horde (with Alliance happening to be there). Siege of Zuldazar is against a very weakened Zandalari empire. Warfronts are stalemates. So in 14 years horde had enough victories against Alliance. Alliance had none.
Again, I want a competent Alliance General to defeat a competent Horde general. Once.
BTW Isn't it getting boring to have victories against a stupid opponent?
I know. I have a Night Elf Druid. All that says is that I was right. It was a corrupted tree, that was an aberration of nature, created for a selfish reason, against the will of the Archdruid. Somehow, that's OK. Grommash going "Draenor is Free" is Not OK. Now I agree with that, Grommash making that claim at the end of WoD is absolutely ridiculous, Dragons going "Yeah, its cool , all OK" however is just fine and dandy.
Nobody has a problem with that.
Really?
REALLY?
Do you put the equal sign between those two?
Grommash going "draenor is free" after he did a genocidal war against everybody, and showed no sign of remorse about it(and nobody had any problem with that) and night elves fighting with all they could against the corruption of Teldrassil, with help from ancients and dryads?
05/11/2018 19:35Posted by
Arctur In fact, I am pretty sure that Sylvanas doesn't give a crap about Malfurion's little charade, and is focused solely on stopping Anduin Wrynn's grand invasion of Dazar'alor, since she knows that if she loses Darkshore, it is not a big deal, but if she loses the Golden Fleet, she loses the war.
While Dazar'alor may deserve some focus on her part, she would not have left her best man at Darkshore were it
just charred soil.
Furthermore, Nathanos would certainly not
hold this ground were he to share your evaluation of the situation. He would have long ago packed up his things and rejoined his queen, leaving just a few grunts behind.
05/11/2018 19:50Posted by
Leafie While Dazar'alor may deserve some focus on her part,
"Some" focus is an understatement, don't you think? Given how it is a raid of epic proportions (two versions for both factions), and losing Dazar'alor and the Golden Fleet means that the Alliance dominates the high seas thanks to the Proudmoores, thus de-facto winning the war.
There are multiple fronts in the war. There are skirmishes going on all over Lordaeron, around Theramore, in the Barrens, even in Durotar. Dazar'alor is clearly the most crucial front. In light of this, why would Sylvanas devote so much attention to Darkshore?
I am also fairly certain that she never mentions Darkshore in the part 2 of the Horde Campaign, bent instead on making an alliance with Ashvane (inside intel on Boralus) and Derek Proudmoore (vengeance over the Proudmoores).
05/11/2018 19:50Posted by
Leafie Furthermore, Nathanos would certainly not hold this ground were he to share your evaluation of the situation. He would have long ago packed up his things and rejoined his queen, leaving just a few grunts behind.
I am not talking from Nathanos' perspective. Nathanos is entrusted with holding Darkshore. He has one job (though it does indeed seem like he abandons his post and returns to Dazar'alor eventually for the Battle). Whereas Sylvanas, as Warchief, must coordinate the war effort going on throughout all of Azeroth. Darkshore is but one of the many fronts that Sylvanas has to deal with, and Malfurion and Tyrande are just two others Alliance generals being a thorn in her side. I fail to see how the Night Elves in Darkshore are meant to be so unique and special. Oh wait, they aren't.
I quite like the idea to let Tyrande find out that Anduin freed Saurfang. To see him get a bite for that.
It's about time to get some real internal conflict. But would Golden allow such a thing to happen? How could Tyrande bash a man that is embodiment of non-toxic mascunility?
Ps. I'm still pissed that Nathanos gets to be both on Darkshore and Dazar'Alor. Friggin' mary sue being in two places at once.
I quite like the idea to let Tyrande find out that Anduin freed Saurfang. To see him get a bite for that.
If Tyrande has a functioning brain, she'll realize that it is madness to openly defy the High-King when he basically holds her people hostage in his city.
Besides, even if Tyrande were to see that Saurfang escaped his prison, there is no proof that can lead back to Anduin. For all she knows, it could have just been a random footman who forgot to lock the door.
But would Golden allow such a thing to happen? How could Tyrande bash a man that is embodiment of non-toxic mascunility?
Grow up already. Quit with these silly and overused jokes that have no place in a lore discussion.
05/11/2018 19:56Posted by
Arctur Nathanos is entrusted with holding Darkshore
Because it matters to the Horde. Under Garrosh they only managed to get as far as Ashenvale. Sylvanas managed to reach Darkshore and even do serious damage to Teldrassil.
Night Elf lands are rich in resources. Resources Orgrimmar lacks. At the moment, to ensure the welfare of the Horde's capital it is essential for her to keep Darkshore and Ashenvale.
Dazar'alor may be important for the war that is raging at the moment, but Kaldorei lands are vital for sustaining her war effort by supplying her with the necessary resources and strategic locations.