03/11/2018 08:41Posted by
Leafie Why he killed the Orc I cannot really understand, though. Was it not that Sauerfang (an Orc) proved honourable and that Sylvanas alone (well, including her Forsaken) was responsible for Teldrassil? Had the grunt been a Forsaken, I would totally agree, but ...?
Why would he let the orc live? He was the enemy, Saurfang didn't prove anything. I know the Sylvanas hate flame is all time high, but come on, they should kill only Forsakens, ignoring that you know a whole bunch of other races are fighting in this war? Saurfang is only one guy rebellin atm, he is not representing all orcs, many probably happy to fight with the Alliance.
03/11/2018 08:41Posted by
Leafie Also, that he killed the Belf was satisfying. Finally, those murderous liars show their true face. They would have relished the idea of having us completely destroyed. Since Ghostlands, they have been out for Kaldorei blood. Now, we repay them in kind. No more mere exile for those kin slayers!
Since Ghostlands nelves were out to sabotage the belfs, they never had a good relationship. Blood elves are not the same race anymore, you know generations and evolution, its like saying high elves are your kin, because they elves.
03/11/2018 08:41Posted by
Leafie Seems, like the cinematic warrents a subscription again? ^^
Don't know why you cancelled your sub, but all you get is a decent cinematic and that's it. Night Elves still get raised and are locked in perpetual combat with the Forsaken. One week losing, the other week winning. If that warrants subscribing again I don't know why you even cancelled your sub.
Why he killed the Orc I cannot really understand, though. Was it not that Sauerfang (an Orc) proved honourable and that Sylvanas alone (well, including her Forsaken) was responsible for Teldrassil? Had the grunt been a Forsaken, I would totally agree, but ...?
Ehm, no. The Orcs are happily tagging along with Sylvanas and her death cult to try and eradicate the Night Elves. Again. You'd rather have Malfurion keep him alive so he can fight another day and kill some more Night Elves? Yeah,t hat makes sense...
Also, that he killed the Belf was satisfying. Finally, those murderous liars show their true face. They would have relished the idea of having us completely destroyed. Since Ghostlands, they have been out for Kaldorei blood. Now, we repay them in kind. No more mere exile for those kin slayers!
Can't argue there.
What was interesting as well (unless, it was an oversight on my part) ... there were no Nightborne involved. Are these guys on the verge of changing their minds?
Valtrois has some lines which show her not being happy with their choice. But nothing will come of it, obviously.
Anyway, I thoroughly enjoyed the clip :xD
As does anyone I reckon. Well, except the Horde players who liked the Night Elves being their punching bags totally dismissing what the Night Elves were supposed to be like.
Yes. YES. YESSSS. Finally something good for the Kaldorei <3 Malfurion, Tyrande, I'm glad I've never stopped believing in you!
Don't know why you cancelled your sub, but all you get is a decent cinematic and that's it. Night Elves still get raised and are locked in perpetual combat with the Forsaken. One week losing, the other week winning. If that warrants subscribing again I don't know why you even cancelled your sub.
On top of Tyrande and Malfurion being outplayed by Nathanos.
I guess those dead horde grunts and all that will follow are hanging on Saurfang's neck.
In my my head canon that orc that Malfurion killed has a kid and and that kid is the first to greet Saurfang back at Orgrimmar.
S : Hey child what are you doing at the gates of Orgrimmar
O : I'm waiting for my father
S : And where is your father young one?
O : He left to bring a supply wagon to darkshore, but will not be coming back.
S : And why is that? ( thinking to himself " the banshee queen is fueling her war machine with the lives of my people")
O : They were attacked on the way there, they were jumped by a giant bear and after that bear wounded my father it turned into a night elf with big antlers and then roots came out of the ground and pulled my father beneath the ground crushing him and suffocating him to death.
I just want to say tnx to Ion Hazzikostas. NE are not tree hugging hippies, just like you said. This cinematic was the best!
This owl made my cry!
For Kaldorei! For Teldrassil! For Elune! Warriors of the night assemble!
Sylvanas we are coming for you!
Probably you will charge in a first line and some nooby BM Hunter will one shot you. You will die and you will be raised as undead. Your thread is cringe boy, go for RP realm if you want to act like this.
03/11/2018 09:59Posted by
Arctur Don't know why you cancelled your sub, but all you get is a decent cinematic and that's it. Night Elves still get raised and are locked in perpetual combat with the Forsaken. One week losing, the other week winning. If that warrants subscribing again I don't know why you even cancelled your sub.
On top of Tyrande and Malfurion being outplayed by Nathanos.
No one gets outplayed,The horde lost a Prime Valkyr and Nathanos runs for the hills, while they raised a few Night Elves...The newer PTR shows the quest line in better fashion, and there are 2 or 3 more cut scenes missing from the scenario.
they never had a good relationship.
Kael'thas would beg to differ.
Don't know why you cancelled your sub
Because I did not enjoy what had happened over the previous months in Blizzard's lore kitchen. Besides, why should I subscribe, if I don't like the content? I pay for things I enjoy doing/having. Guess, like most ^^
Valtrois has some lines which show her not being happy with their choice. But nothing will come of it, obviously.
Maybe, maybe not. Let us hope that Blizzard will stay on that route to having the Night Elves come out on top … and regain their territory. Nowhere like home, even if it's a virtual one :)
03/11/2018 09:59Posted by
Arctur ...
On top of Tyrande and Malfurion being outplayed by Nathanos.
No one gets outplayed,The horde lost a Prime Valkyr and Nathanos runs for the hills, while they raised a few Night Elves...The newer PTR shows the quest line in better fashion, and there are 2 or 3 more cut scenes missing from the scenario.
If Tyrande wasn't outplayed, she wouldn't have required Malfurion to save her.
I will concede that Malfurion didn't get out played. Finally he has some use to us, after spending the whole of Legion annoyingly crying from Xavius' den.
03/11/2018 08:41Posted by
Leafie Seems, like the cinematic warrents a subscription again? ^^
So you resubbed because Malfurion killed like 5 people...wow that's dedication :P but I guess it's ok for a fan... then again the Warfront is still happening and I don't think the Night Elves are going to win it eventually anyway if Kalimdor is going to become Horde controlled and Lordaeron for the Alliance.
03/11/2018 10:48Posted by
Arctur Finally he has some use to us
Don't kid yourself! This time, Tyrande will not waste Kaldorei lives for SW objectives, but will see to it that her people regain what was lost in a war that was (and still is), in fact, between Sylvanas and Anduin/SW.
You said in some of your posters that the Alliance needs SW and not the other way around. So, why bother musing over whether or not the Kaldorei could be ''of use to SW''?
Hang on, didn't Anduin mention that he - despite the many races within the Alliance - could not bring down Sylvanas without Sauerfang's (true) Horde? Seems to me, that SoO has been reversed and now it is the Horde that is saving SW's butt. Well, don't fret, we make sure to mention ''human potential'' on your tombstones, if things don't turn out as expected :p
Since Ghostlands nelves were out to sabotage the belfs, they never had a good relationship. Blood elves are not the same race anymore, you know generations and evolution, its like saying high elves are your kin, because they elves.
Bollocks.
Tyrande worked with Kael in WC3 and there was no animosity at all which leads to people claiming it makes no sense whatsoever for the Night Elves being in the Ghostlands. Just Blizzard having a flimsy story so Blood Elves could join the Horde. Which I'd agree on
unless, the Draenei story came before the Blood Elf one chronologically.
Then it would make sense for them to be there because they'd learn from the Draenei that the Blood Elves were in cahoots with the Legion (nobody knew of the split in Silvermoon) and they would've wanted to know what the hell was going on. You know, considering the Night Elves' history with the Legion and them being the sworn protectors of Azeroth against said Legion. Knowing Kael and Illidan knew eachother wasn't really helpful either as one can imagine. And don't forget the Highborne, which the Blood Elves are descendants of, were the ones responsible for getting the Legion to Azeroth in the first place. Alarm bells would go off immediately.
What should they have done? Go '
Oh the Legion? Well, we'll just wait and see whether they come knocking on our door again.'?
Nah, finding out what was going on was more than warranted. So they did sent some forces to do just that.
And they didn't sabotage anything, nor attacked the Blood Elves, and would have found out there was a split in Silvermoon's leadership eventually but we didn't get that far because the Blood Elves attacked them (we have a quest giver saying he killed a bunch of them) and then the PC comes along to kill some more.
What it boils down to is the Blood Elves forgetting where they come from, who the ones responsible for the Sundering were, and then being all offended when a big part of their population works with the Legion leads to the Night Elves wanting to know what the hell is going on.
Which I say, is a decent story after all. Too bad we got more or less the
exact same story with the Nightborne.
03/11/2018 10:48Posted by
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No one gets outplayed,The horde lost a Prime Valkyr and Nathanos runs for the hills, while they raised a few Night Elves...The newer PTR shows the quest line in better fashion, and there are 2 or 3 more cut scenes missing from the scenario.
If Tyrande wasn't outplayed, she wouldn't have required Malfurion to save her.
I will concede that Malfurion didn't get out played. Finally he has some use to us, after spending the whole of Legion annoyingly crying from Xavius' den.
Tyrande the “night warrior” “wrath of Elune” is sent running by a Valkyr, and is defeated by Nathanos and the Horde hero...
The usual bulls...
What it boils down to is the Blood Elves forgetting where they come from
In their defense though, they were still grieving for the loss of their homeland and their past civilization.
The Ghostlands were once apart of Eversong Forest. The Dead Scar, once lush green fields, the majority of which was being held by the Cult of the Damned and the Scourge.
Desperate times called for desperate measures to be taken. Coupled with the fact that the Silvermoon Blood Elves had no idea what the Sunfury were actually doing in Outland at this time and they didn't understand why the Night Elves were hostile and were on a semi-invasion (not a full invasion, let's be realistic and not the OTT blood elf fan.)
And they didn't sabotage anything, nor attacked the Blood Elves, and would have found out there was a split in Silvermoon's leadership eventually but we didn't get that far because the Blood Elves attacked them (we have a quest giver saying he killed a bunch of them) and then the PC comes along to kill some more.
Face it, they were hostile spies. That they sabotaged or attacked or not is irrilevant (actually they attacked a Magister), because as you probably know spies have "license to kill" (like James Bond). So they are inherently dangerous where they show up, which is also the reason even in RL when an enemy spy is caught red-handed, his/her life is pretty much over (or he/she will be tortured for more information, something that the Blood Elves didn't do)
Also it doesn't really make sense that the Night Elves were there to policy the use of fel magic...first of all, because they weren't actually using fel magic, just putting it into the buildings to sustain them. And second of all, because how could the Night Elves even feel the fel magic of the Blood Elves when they didn't feel the fel/necromantic magic of the Scourge when Arthas first attacked Lordaeron? :/
So you resubbed because Malfurion killed like 5 people...wow that's dedication
Considering that this cinematic was presented in connection with Blizzcon 2018, we can safely assume that the cinematics will serve as trendsetters, too, i.e. what we see, is what we get over the next 12 months. So yes, this cinematic gives hope that the tide is turning in favour of the Night Elves.
Edit:they attacked a Magister
The Night Elves were attacked twice before that incident. Remember? Dame A. is sending the player out
twice to explicitly kill (not just gather intel) -
before the Magister is attacked.
03/11/2018 10:46Posted by
Leafie Kael'thas would beg to differ.
Yes, we had that campaign back in Warcraft 3, where the night elves helped the belves, that was more like a one act of kindness in my opinion. They were friendly to each other, and both went on their separate ways.
Later Kael went to apply a job to be a raidboss, and night elves went to spy on the belves, because now they were dangerous.
Yes, we had that campaign back in Warcraft 3, where the night elves helped the belves, that was more like a one act of kindness in my opinion.
It was to honor the debt the High Elves put in during the war against the Legion and the Scourge at Mt Hyjal.
At this point, the Night Elves were not aware that the High Elves that remained in Lordaeron had renamed themselves to "blood elves."
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No one gets outplayed,The horde lost a Prime Valkyr and Nathanos runs for the hills, while they raised a few Night Elves...The newer PTR shows the quest line in better fashion, and there are 2 or 3 more cut scenes missing from the scenario.
If Tyrande wasn't outplayed, she wouldn't have required Malfurion to save her.
I will concede that Malfurion didn't get out played. Finally he has some use to us, after spending the whole of Legion annoyingly crying from Xavius' den.
Tyrande broke the Valkyr Shackles on her own, Malfurion was assisting her, but I guess humans are so blinded by stupidity they need the Night Elves to explain everything for you, even LORE.
I usually don't waste my time with delusional trolls, but you are asking for it. I will apply your mangled logic to my replies now.
Anduin the imbecile man-child has to be counseled by Gen Greymane and prophet Velen every step of the way or else his pathetic stunned face will give us nightmares in every CGI cinematic ! Also wtf is wrong with his eyes? why is he always on the edge of tears? pathetic.
But don't worry the wise Kaldorei leaders will be here to hold your hands and guide you to victory as we did in ages past, we understand that lesser devolved humans of Stormwind are a bit slow and require more time to process.
I usually don't waste my time with delusional trolls,
Neither do I, welcome to my ignored list.