Maybe I am wrong but there is almost nothing and this nothing is full of speculants that explain things to you without any real sorce. Most sources have this fancy words like “probably” and “not sure if canon” that is making it as reliable as my own speculation.
We only know that Arcane connects everything and that there are sources of power like Well of Eternity, Sunwell or Emerald Dream. Nothing more~ we dont know HOW Mages tap into Arcane to use their spells (even if out of 3 this could be with the most lore sources so I might be wrong) but Frost and Fire? Nada
I have seen many discussions and everytime I am getting mindblowed because everything prople say have total zero evidence.
some people believe that they are using arcane to make environment colder/warmer
I believe that mages are conjurers that are summoning this power by using arcane from other places~ be it Sun, Firelands or ehatever else for Fire Mage
there were people claiming that fire and ice depends on emotions
wowwiki had fun “magic schools” page claiming that fire resulted in clash between fel and holy where frost is combination of water, death and~ dont remember what was third
When someone is so sure about one thing its very easy to shut them down. Ask for source
And how does it help? Its about realms (thats why Shadowlands is at this~ thing) and order of things. Not magic itself… I know for example that fel is opposite to arcane but it does not say how warlock is using shadow nor how mage is using fire.
Magic is from elementals like Jaina uses water magic and she takes it from water elementals. That’s why she always has a water elemental.
If you’re a fire mage you take it from fire elementals.
There’s the well of eternity and ley lines all over azeroth. The former was like a gushing wound from the planet and that’s what fed that off-branch of trolls magic and eventually turned them into Night Elves. That ‘well’ was created when a titan ripped out an old god directly, which is exactly why they don’t ‘just’ do that anymore. Ley Lines are more like the veins of the planet and this is what you draw arcane from. Shadow and fel are from different sources and is drawn by channeling the power from them. How is that done specifically? Use your imagination would honestly be my best answer. You’re reaching a point of trying to bridge the gap between fact and fiction. Thought, most likely is the primary source: just like a strong will and faith can produce light magic.
Like I said, there are ley lines. And it’s not THE source of arcane magic. It does imply that it requires a physical manifestation.
It’s really not that complicated. Our ancestors had a similar approach to ‘magic’. It was all about setting the mood and the climate for channeling these powers.
If it doesn’t make sense to you after these explanations, then it’s because it doesn’t. We don’t ‘channel’ any energy that we have access to from different ‘realms’ so there’s no reference for this train of thought. It’s like faith essentially.
You are being very argumentative over what could just be a fun conversation.
Yeah of course it is. I was referring to this sort of behavior
and your OP’s title. We do btw. There is a ton of lore on magic, but you are intent on rejecting it for whatever reason.
If it’s about speculation, what does “shutting people down” have to do with any of it? That’s why I say you are coming off as argumentative and I’ll add confrontational. That isn’t fun to take part in after a while. It becomes strenous and tiring to have someone scrutinize your contributions for things you can criticize. All the more pointless when we consider that a lot of this is just fiction that writers like Metzen and Golden likely gave less thought than most lore fans.
I dunno. Take it or leave it. I guess you’ll disagree with this assessment as well: like clockwork.
Well~ he started with “here is a link - enjoy” where it explained nothing at best and was not following subject at worst so dunno why you are surprised with my reaction
Basically this was the only interesting part
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Yeah I can see how you might interpret it as something annoying when you put effort into writing a thread. That map he provided made lore fans very excited when it was released and continues to inspire which is probably why he thought it was relevant for you as well.
It’s deliberately made this way, to be open to interpretation. You can only go so far in defining magic after all, unless you just straight up attribute some value to it that is comparable to for example: Electricity.
Which would make it sort of boring for the most part. It does describe a fair bit by the way. Blizzard, in spite of occasionally overexplaining things, are actually very good at keeping everything to a minimum so that we, the fans, may interpret it to our own liking. That’s why you can apply almost any fantasy to WoW and it’ll work.
We have lovecraftian, steampunk, warhammer-ish, D&D in general ofc, anime-inspired, reality-based work, fantastical stuff, astronomy, astrology, space-opera, norse/greek/japanese/chinese mythology e.g. and so forth. There’s virtually no limits to what you can insert into WoW.
Due to this being their approach, a lot of things like magic, cannot be firmly defined as it would break many if not all. In fact it happens occasionally, to a point where a retcon is needed.
