You need a baseline level of gear to do enough damage and the tuning is out in that regard. Hence people using old gear.
If one is skilled enough it should be doable without consumables, cheese gear and while also using bear form. Which I’ve yet to see anyone do.
It takes me 5-6 minutes to kill the first guy, the video guide I watched with a very good player (using consumables) took 4 and a half minutes.
Then he ate a bunch of annihilates and needed the cheat death trinket (which I also have but not everyone does). Having a trinket that stops you dying isn’t skill.
I didn’t even get mine in the raid, I got it from a weekend event.
I should say I’ve been having tons of fun in MT and loving it. I love this kind of stuff though.
Idk what kind of player you watched but Kruul 1st phase I don’t even get berserk up again when Varis dies.
You don’t need to go moonkin form for 1st phase.
My best attempt was 5% Kruul multiple times and never swapped into moonkin once.
And I am not using any special sockted gear, the challenge annoyed me for sure, but in the end, the fault was mine alone.
Sure if the boss had even less hp or did less damage with cast, i could have killed it more easily yet the fault of the tries was always lying on a mistake of mine, not because I was missing Sockets or the cheat death trinket.
Can you stop with this thing, is not even true.
Going bomie is not a deal breaker at all.
Plus I remember in Legion I did it as a 903 Druid with no cheese leggo and I remember using moonkin even back then during tries and in the end I resorted to simply sitting in bear.
No but maybe you should stop taking everything as a dogma and see for yourself that moonkin form is in no way needed.
He is probably used to owl weaving anyway while tanking, if you are not used to it, you are not gonna reap the benefits.
Just because he does it doesn’t mean that without Going moonkin you are not gonna beat the challenge.
That Boomkin was pointless so you just sat in bear. Try it now, sit in bear, good luck with all the infernals. Why tf do you think balance affinity is the talent EVERYBODY is using? Sure, P1 being in boomie isn’t much of an issue, that’s not the point, the point is, is that the HP of the mobs is so busted you pretty much HAVE to play boomie to not have like 4 infernals up in P2 or w/e.
The HP and AoE tick damage is busted, I can get Kruul to like 15% everytime, from there it is just an awful experience between trying to do everything at once whilst doing sweet fa damage to Kruul and hoping the RNG has allowed you to conserve cooldowns.
Hell, in OG videos of it, people don’t even attempt to manage the orbs, they just use them like everytime.
I want a feat of strength for having done this pre-nerf. I keep second guessing all these complainers on the forums: are they trolls or are they just massively underskilled?
There is a heavy difference in the tuning between different specs. And also with or without old consumables, and with or without specific old gear and trinkets. Grats on having it done though
I said already that I have took kruul to 5%, multiple times and never used moonkin form in P1.
I use balance affinity for the range increase and typhoon not for owl weaving.
Variss goes down before berserk goes up again and I usually have 2/3 infernal in P2.
My biggest problem was annihilation management, I panic clicked wrong button on my best tries and that resulted in me dying from the next annihilation.
What most people don’t seem to understand is that you need balance affinity and mostly do the fight ranged/ spellcasting. I just see videos of bears getting rekt. It’s hilarious.
idk what my bear of my M+ group is doing. But he is struggling like me on my spec. And we timed up to M+23. And we log, record, analyze everything into death. I really wonder it is a skill issue. And we are definitely not trolling.
