BG´s unplayable for alli… Shadow instant nerf, same boomie. Where is the Shaman nerf?
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what is there to nerf? we already die in 5 seconds to any warlock/priest/ret pala even with WOE rune
5s is a lifetime in pvp. Got deleted in 2-3s by shamans countless times. With stam gear.
The real strength is the spam purge though. If they put a vile CD on it it would solve everything imo.
Blizzard keeps shamans in current abysmal stage to sustain better faction balance.
After all fotm plebs roll horde and increase the h population enough, it will be nerfed to the ground.
Shadow didn’t get nerfed. They just changed which abilities nukes. But their power remains the same.
Shadow priest is still the most disgustingly op class in the game. By alot.
Lol they will never nerf purge that’s like vanilla shamans bread and butter. Like saying rogue should lose stun and druid should lose bear form
Shamans kill any form of PVP rn. its disgusting. Devs are silent…
They got relocated to Cata team. No dev update / no news for p3. SoD dead game 
What? I can deal with shadow priests, what i cant deal with is getting 1 shot by a tank which is what shamans are doing right now.
Make sure to actually nerf Rogues mutilate along side shamans.
Rogues dont need nerfing lets be real, theyre squishy asf, if you catch a rogue out of stealth you win, unless youre bad.
And howmany times do you catch a rogue before the broken Mutilate spam rolls in?
Any good rogue will not allow you to counterplay them and literally hammer you into the ground with Mutilate which scales off talents that benefit Backstab and weapon damage. 500 damage avg per 40energy on any non tank/paladin/warrior is pretty busted, ontop of that it gives rogues 2cp for an easier stunlock.
There’s two things that can prevent the stunlock:
- miss on any CC
- bubble/iceblock
Literally class, talent and/or RNG based. There’s more counterplay to SP/Boomie/Ret than actual rogue counterplay.
I catch rogues out all the time, and you can see the fear in their eye’s the second they get out of stealth, becasue they know theyre about to get 1 shot,
There are classes in SOD which are a real problem right now, and rogue isnt one of them, rogues can easily be countered,
Whereas a shaman tank can literally 1 shot, and take a tone of damage, so lets fix that before trying to nerf others.
Oh and as a ret paladin, you should be having a great time vs rogue.
lmfao, most dense player here, a class that can quite literally pick their fights to 99% in PvP doesn’t need nerfing? High damage, insane CC and mobility is literally grounds for nerf if anything.
Balance and SP have gotten nerfs because of high flexibility with damage and/or healing, not sure why rogue should be an exception when it quite literally beats 6-7 out of 8 classes with exceptions/hard matches being tanks and platewearers.
Shamans you see a mile and a half coming from, you will barely see a rogue, not sure what the rogue players do in your case but prolly oblivion NPCs that forgot how stealth/vision works. Any competent rogue will always get the opener on you, by then you are dead.
I don’t disagree with shaman nerfs, but ignoring rogue is a bad idea, and with leaked runes for p3 Mutilate needs adjusting ASAP.
You can throw your toys around and act like a child in a debate calling people dense all you want,
I pvp on a ret paladin, i deal with rogues, they kill me, i kill them, its pvp,
Before rogues get nerfed, shamans needs to be taken care of, until then i dont think rogues are a problem.
Basically one of the most consistent class counters. Explains a lot to people then, because rets pummel rogues for a good chunk and decent RNG.
Mages can be a nightmare for rogues if the mage has cd’s, if a druid can shift to bear a rogue isnt doing much, a priest has dispersion then will fear off that, meta warlocks laugh at rogues, ret paladins are happy,
Rogues are not godly, if they catch you from stealth, 1v1, then yes they have a very high chance of winning, but that is only 1v1,
I have seen a shaman walk into a flag room with 3 defenders, and walk out with the flag and no defenders are left,
Rogues are very strong right now in pvp, but other classes are literally a plague.
I’ll just blow that bubble, mages aren’t much of a threat considering Ice Barrier/Block is stuck in Frost, even if the mage blinks the rogue is right behind them with Shadowstep and potential Blind or gauge.
Big if, balance druids get the same 360% armor increase and still look like swiss cheese for rogues. And you won’t get into bear if you do not have a trinket ready and can abolish poison yourself in that time. Even then it does not make sure that the druid even survives because Gauge is not a poison effect to cleanse, it is only good against Blind. Still haven’t healed by then, and for that you gotta drop Bear/Balance form, which is equal to death.
Easy avoiding from rogues, they wont fight a metalock.
Loads of talk yet you lack the experience as a SP/Rogue, once stuns off you are blinded or gauged.
Try using that fear again, and even if you get it off it is almost instant WoTF/Trinket and dead again.
Rogues can keep you CC’d for 30s straight and wear you down if played right, and no trinket, bubble or abolish will safe you there. Which is mindblowing considering the increased toolkit, which boosts their damage by double, in SoD.
Ive seen a druid flag carrier get opened by a rogue, they went bear and kill the rogue, i was there on standby incase the FC needed me, i didnt have to help,
In terms of rogues CC which you keep bringing up, this has been the case for the past 20 years, its nothing new, rogues on ERA can literally drown you in water using never ending CC, its old news,
Im leaving it here, all im saying is, rogues dont bother me as much as other classes right now, i get killed by rogues, i kill rogues, its pvp, rogues have been stunlocking everyone for 20 years,
sure nerf rogues, whatever, but i wont be stepping into any bgs until shamans are dealt with, whereas ill fight rogues any day.
Bad shaman detected. Baddie on any class is still baddie.