I main Alliance on a PvP Server and I am embarrassed by Alliance Players feeling the Joy of others misery and arguing about stuff like “outnumbered and ganked all day”.
I leveled to 70 questing in the world and world pvp is never fair. I maybe died 20 times on the way but also killed 30 hordes or more. Sure you could argue I play a stealth class but in reality these are SERVER problems and not OVERALL problems. The QUE however is an OVERALL problem.
These players are people too who enjoy the game. Now they are forced to gank you, before they had a choice.
Stop being so petty and let them voice their valid issue because all those alliance “issues” are no issues at all. You can still play the content, they can NOT.
Calling PvP server imbalances “server issues” and sweeping them under the rug when it’s true on all but 3 servers in EU is about as sensible as calling queue issues battlegroup issues and therefore not requiring any attention since they’re not “general”.
It is like retail when a lot of top alliance guilds decided they just loved the troll feet so much that they re-rolled horde and mostly trolls when throne of thunder released, it had nothing to do with the fact that a lot of bosses where beasts and trolls had a bonus vs beasts.
And in Legion when the few alliance guilds that where left rerolled horde because they just loooooved how the goblins ears flapped in the wind with their rocketboost racial and it had nothing to do with the fact that Kil’jaeden more or less required you to be a goblin to be able to do the encounter without wiping on Mythic.
We all know it was just because of the look on the horde feet’s and ears that made them switch. (Atleast according to the Zug’s)
Alot people already said they would accept a Fraction transfer to do so if free or to pay. But you cant expect them to level from core again not everyone is a Speedrunner in leveling and for some its a very big amount of time 1-70 specialy without gold to pay this magic boosters or anyone they know there
Arguing that you should reroll alliance, because you want a character on alliance for another expansion is ignorant.
You don’t know why people chose their race, so to assume everyone playing horde is a meta slave and that they will just go alliance anyway, is wrong. Most people will stay with their char, as they are attached to it.
It might be true for some, but I believe that for most it isn’t.
Merc mode is a worse answer, you effectively give the main faction all the perks and benefits of the other which will make things worse.
Why is it ignorant? I think it’s ignorant to sit on the overwhelming faction and expect all the perks of the lesser one. You have a clear cut solution yet it is ignorant because you don’t wanna grind again?
I don’t care why people pick the race they did, I don’t care if they are a meta slave or not, the only thing I care about is trying to maintain some sembelance of faction balance and you want to remove one of the only game aspects one side has going for them?
Just trying to explain that you can’t use an argument about something that might or might not happen in the future as if it’s fact.
Merc mode might be the solution, it might not. I dont know.
To me at this point it’s all about getting an answer from blizzard. The silence is deafening atm.
I know you don’t care. Why would you care, you aren’t experiencing the problem at hand.
But you aren’t trying to be part of the solution either. I never said your point was ignorant because of any kind of grind. But to believe that people will just grind another 100+ hours to get a new char to lvl 70, get rep, gold, gear, friends, guilds. That however is ignorant.
Most people, myself included would rather just quit the game.
But I would like it if me quitting is based on a new post from blizzard about the PvP gearing situation for horde. (Again I know u don’t care, so don’t even bother with the “Then quit” comment)
They do or they do not, depends how much they care on the situation.
Implement a bandaid like merc mode and the situation is not able to right itself, you make one faction dominant because the game is mechanically in their favour.
The game will exist for a looooot longer than a couple hundred hours, people here want it all right now at the expense of the future, I think that is ignorant compared to letting it balance itself over time, people who are actually dedicated to pvp have choices that improve the ques, the game litterally has a solution built in but if it is not given the time it needs to be realised and balance itself out it will not matter.
Only way I accept a merc system is if both factions can use it because then it’s not making it super advantageous to play one faction but still, rather this system never existed at all.
I get your point, aswell as many others saying the same thing.
For me it’s not a problem for the “Dedicated” or “Pro” or whatever u want to call the high end PvP’ers, as they will do the grind or they will reroll.
This is a problem for everyone else, like myself, who can’t dedicate 10+ hours a day to play a video game.
Most people just want to play BG’s because they are fun or becuase they want to do some casual arena and need the PvP trinket.
We are the ones who are getting punished, we are the ones who can’t enjoy a large part of the game, because of an issue that, yes the players created, but an issue which an individual can’t resolve.
I will again say that Merc mode might not be the solution, but it is a suggestion.
I don’t believe that having a temporary fix will destroy alliance. It is for them the same issue about rolling horde, with the amount of hours invested in a char.
But who knows, maybe it will completely destroy alliance, I don’t know.
But for Blizzard to stay silent at a time like this is only gonna make people quit the game. Which is a loss for everyone.
Hopefully we can figure something out together, so that everyone can enjoy the great game that is TBCC
It’s also quite funny though that the alliance players are crying about population disparity and getting camped in the open world, when the large majority of alliance players were never PVP Players in the first place but rolled on a PVP Server.
On Classic we had 54% Alliance 46% Horde and Alliance had instant queues on almost all BGs. Just showcases the difference mindset of players. Do you want to get less murdered in the open world? Give us merc mode, so those who want to pvp can actually do it, and not have to do P2 Classic all over again, or simply roll PVE if that’s what you’re into.
Fact is that many competitive PVP Players are Horde, so obviously you go horde because there you can find the largest pool of players to play with. A lot of people take part in a discussion here when they never touched PVP in the first place, which is ridicolous.
Correct, it’s personal and I don’t flaunt my personal life on a public forum.
You still tried to create a strawman. Shame on you.
When I said this I was referring to the alliance players that claimed this was a punishment to all those horde players zerging alliance in wpvp back in classic for honour. Yes, I saw those early in the thread.
Then you started making up something about entitled brats, and then further down the line failing to understand it was alliance players I was talking about.
Nobody, and I mean nobody, could have predicted that 15 min queues in pre patch would turn into 1 hour long queues later on.
But go ahead, you start leveling a character from scratch. Or buy a boost and go from there. Grind all the gold and mats needed to get started. See how fast it takes.
This is what you are asking from other players.
Wpvp says something about specific servers, not overall population across all servers. And well, if wpvp isn’t your cup of tea there’s pve servers.
Again, assumption doesn’t go well when reading statistics, I learned this when it comes to real world statistics. I chose to carry this lesson with me.
I accepted there’s no accurate numbers for it, perhaps you can accept that I won’t take your, or anyone else’s interpretation of it as the truth and the only truth.
Or don’t, I don’t care. You seem happy to make up your own stories either way.
It would increase the alliance queue times for sure.
But it would be an increase to maybe 5 min instead of insta pops. Where horde might get queue times of 15 min. Makes a huge difference for horde, compared to the minute change for alliance.
Most people just dont want it to happen, because they are scared all the current alliance players will change to horde. (Which is a valid concern)
And others just want to see the opposite faction suffer, idk something phase 2? I guess? idk seems idiotic to me.
But something has to be done or said from blizzard. They can’t stay silent on this.
Merc mode or Horde vs Horde might not be the answer, but doing nothing will make alot of people quit. Myself included.
Horde complaining and asking for merc mode is just completely inapropriate.
You guys have a much better time in open world due to the huge faction imbalance ; a better time in PvE for the same reason (bigger pool of ppl to pick from). Excellent racials in PvP that explains partially the faction imbalance. So one thing being bg’s aren’t in your favor and your point is : “we’d like to keep all the advantages above and add this one also, fix it with merc mode Blizzard”. How delusional…
Gotta pay for rerolling fotm at some point boys. Moreover the real pvp place is arena so soon enough you won’t even need to do bg’s.
You wanna get that issue fixed ? Only answer to that would be a faction imbalance fix. What if blizzard offered (only) Horde players to faction change ? Still up for short bg queues to that price fotm guys ?
