1hr duration of leftover WB’s after raid and I farm 700-1500g EZ in silithus just killing mobs for meat/venom ± skinning & herbing.
Yep. I’ve got professions. I don’t have endless time to grind 10s of thousands of gold. Why do you even need lots of gold? Like what is the purpose? It doesn’t do anything apart from creating a mini game of your own (flipping AH). Reals still require investment, just a different kind. I really don’t get what the problem is apart from the voices of those profiteering off this, which is quite evident to see.
Asking why someone need a lot of gold in wow is like asking someone why they need money irl… its a rhetorical question.
It solves almost all your problems, like duh.
The richer you are the easier it is to solve your problems as most problems are economical in nature.
As a result of having a lot of gold i don’t have any problems in-game except those that can’t be solved with gold.
I.e raid/dungeon loot drops.
I never have to worry about consumables, zg dolls, repair bots, proffession mats, etc.
You mean the less than 1k gold you need for weekly consumes, enchants (which aren’t regular) and the odd head/leg enchant doll which aren’t very expensive at all and not a frequent purchase?
Yet you need to farm tens of thousands of gold to ensure you’re comfortable? Bit of a paradox really.
If you already have loads of gold why do you care if mats get put on reals? The gold you have now will be meaningless in less than 6 months time you do realize this don’t you? When Mop hits, Sod will be dropped.
People who insist they can tell the future based on their own gut feelings always give me a chuckle. The point is that i am set for the rest of sod, hell i was set a month ago.
This is sort of irrelevant considering the facts tho.
You are the one who spends your time on here complaining about gold issues - not me.
This alone tells a story about how you got problems that you could, but refuse to solve… because you are too lazy to make gold (which is extremely easy even without proffessions btw).
Everything you say screams “raid logger”.
Also dolls can be extremely expensive depending on the class you play.
Last night shaman dolls were 600+ gold.
1200g for 2 enchants.
This morning they dipped down to “only” 389g…
This, however, is a non-issue for people like me but actually moreso an opportunity to make even more gold with a minimum amount of risk.
I could buy all those 389g dolls and barely feel a dent in my savings and flip them back to 600+ gold and make a fortune, whereas people like you instead come to the forum to complain that you can’t afford even 1-2 of them.
I’m not even trying to flex here, i am merely illustrating the point i made in my previous post about having more gold than you “need” solves all your problems and open the door for opportunity.
It’s literally in their 2025/26 forward plan?
Good for you, I guess?
I don’t have gold issues. I have issues with AH rackets and abusing bottlenecks in raid tier mats which shouldn’t even be a thing.
No I’m not lazy, I just don’t agree with fleecing people for tier gear.
You’re not buying dolls for enchants every week…
Again, good for you.
Sure, if gold increases your e-peen over me go for it. Still doesn’t stop the fact that this type of gear system opens the door for degenerative, greedy and restrictive behaviour in a game mode specifically designed for casual gamers.
and how many times have they doubled down on doomposters by saying “the future is not set in stone when it comes to SOD”?
they have clarified many times that nax was not the end of SOD, and still to this day, even with phase 8 announced, we got people out here saying its over soon.
what makes you think there isn’t going to be a phase 9 after phase 8?
so what you are saying is that you don’t have gold issues, but also that you have gold issues.
got it.
you don’t have to “fleece” people to get the gold you need for your tier gear.
“fleecing” just makes it 10x easier.
depends on how many characters you raid on, how lucky you are with rolls etc.
how casual do you want “casual” to be?
like, do you want everything to just be free?
this is such a tired argument btw.
Yes. Especially tier gear that I’ve already acquired through time and effort.
but you haven’t spent the time and effort yet.
You missed the part where you bring the mats and t3 token in for your reward.
The mats can be purchased on AH btw.
Like please get over yourself.
Economy is part of the game and its never getting removed.
That’s fine the economy won’t go anywhere if mats are added to reals. As it has been done several times in the past.
Through time and effort? The 2 weeks in Heroic or the 1 week in Mythic, where you’re being hard carried by others? https://i.imgur.com/kIdZ0nJ.png
Where’s the effort then? Aren’t the ones actually pushing doing the effort at that point?
People are putting in more hours into farming mats for their gear than those 11 hours.
A large part of almost any MMORPG, are the professions. Spending time leveling, gathering and crafting. But you value the no effort more, so you want the people actually putting in hours to get shafted?
Especially as a Rogue, there’s a raid that gives you access to farming gold, if you’re low. It’s called Zul’Gurub and there are dolls inside you can farm that make other classes like Shamans and Druids suffer cost wise. It can be reset over and over again after doing 2 free piles, and the only limiter there is the 1 hour CD.
Every class can actually do the farm, if they are in need of gold, and it’s instanced to avoid getting ganked.
There are so many gold making methods to SoD, that I can give pointers to any guildie on how to make quick gold. The big difference between someone sitting on 300g and someone sitting on 50000g, is the effort put into it. No single item gets you that rich, and sure some classes have more options to farm gold, but when it comes down to it, you can make 5000g+ a week, if you’re putting in the time and effort farming.
I really don’t get your point here? Time and effort of raiding yes…it’s not as if I stood in a corner waiting for others to clear the content for me. Your poor take on this makes 0 sense. It’s not about farming gold, it’s about accessibility in a casual game.
I don’t understand what you have against that? Apart from safeguarding some weird fixation you have on justifying playing wow 24/7?
Just let us obtain Matt’s without farming boring gold. Like reals which you get from doing content. Professions can still be relevant with exclusive patterns etc…similar to phase1/2/3 etc where this was the case.
Also parses mean absolutely Jack as it merely takes into account DPS or healing done and nothing else. If I wanted to I can get 99 parses no problem but I don’t, do you know why? Because I do what is best for the raid I’m in. Try not to be a jackass all your life. You’ll learn to regret it
For some mats - yes it’s reasonable to be added to reals vendor. But not for profession cds, i think it’s just unfair. It’s unfair to people who just levelled an alt for profession CDs and spend some gold for levelling profession (low level leather is not cheap now). This will just devalue all efforts they put in levelling alt and professions. And also keep in mind that all cured rugged hides for your set could be made just in 42 days with 1 character, when you had 8 months
It can be true if you are healer or tank, but as rogue dps your only task is to deal damage.
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right, and what happened when those mats were put in the real boxes?
they plummeted in price, making the related professions useless (in this case herbalism and alchemy).
Black Lotus = shockingly low price.
Arcanite Bar = shockingly low price.
the only reason it went up is because the material used to craft them - Arcane Crystals - are used for the T3 ring token (which requires 10x) and naxx attunement (which is only free if you are exalted with AD) making “fleecing” them the ideal move on part of an AH andy, who btw have made a fortune by buying them when they were low, ready to sell when naxx released…
with a minimum amount of research you could have done the same and been rich by now.
so what, pray, do you think will happen if you stuff mooncloth and cured rugged hide/refined deeprock salt into the boxes?
you are making professions irrelevant and useless for making gold, which is the whole point of PROFESSIONS in the first place.
ironically, those boxes will also lose value specifically because they drop these mats as well, because all you do is oversaturate the market.
when a black lotus drops from a real box, people no longer cheer… they scoff and go “well that was worthless”… why?
because its not a rare commodity, and therefore not valuable.
if you have robots cook the perfect meal for free, then every chef in the world is now useless… how do you plan to compensate them for sabotaging their livelihood?
or in this case; how do you plan to compensate people whose professions would be made obsolete if your suggestion was implemented?
like yeah sure, your suggestion sounds good on paper (if you’re poor) but in practice all you are doing is sabotaging everyone’s ability to make gold outside of hard-farming mobs.
could have fooled me with those green and gray parses.
do you even bother to pop consumes?
world buffs?
push your buttons even?
bro, you are barely putting in the bare minimum of effort it takes to raid based on those numbers.
Well I’ve put my points across several times now, no point in repeating myself. Whatever will be will be
be that as it may, repeating yourself doesn’t make what you say true and you’ve yet to present a credible argument for your case.
whatever will be, will be, indeed.
Neither have you. But good luck farming that gold 
Calling MMORPGs casual games is crazy. The MMORPGs that survive are the games where people can and are putting in a lot of effort and time into the game.
The way to measure the success of SoD over time, is with how alive the game feels. You could easily tell Phase 3 was too long, by how barren it became and how few items were on the Auction House at the end.
For the people that stuck around, I was 600 auctions out of 2150 daily near that end.
When Phase 4 came, that number jumped up to close to 10000 total auctions, and you could see the world come alive again, as people returned.
Games that feel dead, have people barely logging in and staying on.
A lot of people on SoD are online 6-18 hours a day, and you can see that if you’re in Org or LHC. You can even tell by all the layers.
If it was a casual game, you’d see people pop up after work, and be close to dead by night, but it’s not. People are out mining all hours of the day now cause people require Arcane Crystals and Arcanite Bars.
During work hours we have 5-25 online in the guild, and you’ve got half the guild farming or raiding.
Even your guild has 7 people on currently, and your top performing player is one of those. May it’s for a reason?
We don’t need luck, we put in the time and effort.
We stay prepared, so our income can be like this https://i.imgur.com/5nZgmvQ.png
you are either being disingenuous or you’re stupid.
i’ve literally made several good arguments for my case and explained in detail why you are wrong.
you haven’t done anything other than saying “stuff should be free because i’m lazy. but guys trust me, i’m not lazy and i don’t have gold issues, but i do actually have gold issues”
you are cooked bro.
fried, even.