"We rather you don't play horde"

This is the feeling I get whenever I see anything being released for midnight, with housing looking more and more grim with each passing day with the data mine for it potentially having separate premium currency the majority of housing items are alliance centric.

New addition of class race combinations, seemingly void elves are looking to get paladins as an option, what!? If this is real then any and all class restrictions need to go, the faster the better give us pandaren druids and belf druids and undead paladins too then, there is no real excuse beyond that point anymore. It really feels like the developers or whoever does the story is kind of annoyed that horde exists but just writes it in because “they have to” new leveling sets that just got revealed are all void elf themed, wow guys another alliance focused expansion.

Excuse me for liking a faction that got introduced 20 years ago how about you make something for the people who play that faction as well.

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how about you make something for the people who play that faction as well.

Such as 1/3 of the expansion’s otherwise neutral hub that only Horde players can visit without getting attacked?

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Housing is going to be an ongoing process, other racial styles will eventually become available.

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There has been a void elf paladin npc ingame for a while, same for a forsaken and night elven one. So I think it’s Blizzard just finally trying to push their “statement” of making all classes avaiable for all races (over time). Note that a class like paladin takes some time as of it’s unique mounts and so on. Some are easier. I think it’s a welcome addition for the people who want to realize the high elven fantasy. Plus there was a hint in the story that void and light could co-exist without causing a crater to spawn when you call upon it.

Also please note that the expansion is set in a Horde zone for most of it: Quel’thalas, Eversongwoods, Silvermoon City, which is 1/3rd off limits for Alliance players, you as Horde player can Visit Silvergrade Refuge without being killed on sight. Ilse of Quel’danas.

Alliance getting some attention is a nice take away from the past, where the Horde got the favourable treatment over Alliance in the past. The tables have turned. Just wait for the developer team to cycle again to do a 180 on this stand point again.

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God, I’d love to find out what the faction imbalance is like at Blizzard. Bet it’s something silly like 80/20 in favor of the Alliance at the quest/story team.

Now, this would have some merit if that entire zone wasn’t just a shiny backdrop to advance the stories of a buncha Alliance characters. Both Arator and Umbric get more screentime than any of the (Horde) natives who actually live there and call the place home.

I know that it’s impossible to imagine because Blizzard would never ever do it but just entertain the idea of a revamped northern Kalimdor or Khaz Modan with a bunch of Horde characters thrust into the lead roles. It’d be silly. Silly and ridiculous and yet that’s exactly what they did to Eversong.

The only bright spot in this unfolding disaster of an expansion from the perspective of a Horde player is really only Zul’aman so thank goodness we at least get something out of this revamp.

Oh, and that race/class combo they promised us at Gamescom. Better be Belf druids or Nightborne DH or so help me lord.

Yeah I’m almost positive that is the case.

I really also love how the argument of ah yeah you can exist in this space on the map as a horde seems like a legitimate argument for it being a horde expansion, like ok what about the story, oh right Eitrigg the ORC is joining an alliance expedition, can’t wait for alliance orcs.

Doesnt Arathor live in Silvermoon? And is counted amongst the horde? Or am i missing something

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I believe he is actually counted as Alliance who lives in Silvermoon. It’s been a slipery slope for a while as High Elves and half Elves are allowed pilgrimage to the Sunwell and to visit (and if they choose so) to live in Silvermoon, but High Elves choose not to. The same is with Vereesa and her children (who have yet to appear in-game).

Don’t you agree in the past it was Horde centric?

That why I said:

Ongoing process for introducing more bugs :bug:

I seen more stuff related to the Void elves in Midnight than about the Sin’dorei.

10/10 Blizz.

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Not our fault that horde’s capital and bulidings in general are ugly af and have only two shared attributes: the color red and spikes

This I can agree with with the exception of Evoker and DH, should have happaned some time ago already. Undead can be holy priests, so apparently the Light is not bothered that it is wielded by a walking/talking corpse.

Um hello

It’s a horde city ?

And now as alliance you get to hang out there

But me as horde can’t go hang out in iron forge

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Wait until you realize we have void elf priests that can spec into HOLY or Undead priests and that lightforged draenei can be warlocks.

Also youre playing a blood elf, youre basically alliance anyway.

You mean the Horde Capital that got butchered into allowing Alliance inside?

yeah the horde getting 1/3rd of one of their own core race capitals to ourselves is obviously too much how dare we ask for something that acknowledges the faction barriers.

Pretty much this.

At this point it feels like they went for quel’thalas just so they could say hey look we didn’t forget about the horde.

For me WoW has always been about creation of a horde character including agreeing to living in cities, slums and huts made out of everything found around the house.

And creating an alliance character means living in thriving beatiful cities full of nice architecture.

We need to preserve some WoW authenticity in housing too :rofl:

Anyway, you can create 1 horde and 1 alliance house…

How was it horde centric? Both sides got their own hub and campaign until it became all about the Alliance

Arator is due to Windrunner-bias (I’m so tired of them, they’re like story black holes…), for some reason the writers are downright obsessed with the wretched Windrunner sisters and their hangers-on.

As for Umbric, he’s the pre-eminent void expert, can’t really leave him out when fighting, you know, the void baddies, who in the Horde has such a connection to the Void as he has? (Or indeed any connection at all)

Ehhhhhhhhh…I mean I know a lot of Alliance players certainly feel that way about Cataclysm through WoD and will claim that this is the inverse of what happened way back then. Now, I’m not gonna discredit anyones feelings and lived experience of that time because if Alliance players were as miserable back then as I am now that the game is railroading me into questing for characters I’d rather chuck plague canisters at than lend my aid to then goodness me y’all have my belated sympathy.

And besides, I’m not looking for the pendulum to swing back hard in the other direction. What I want is a return to the BFA model without the clowncar faction war where each faction is given their own central hub, their own stories and their own NPC’s.

Gee I dunno maybe the Forsaken, the race of Undead who founded the Cult of Forgotten Shadows and who just so happen to also be uniquely resistant to the void. Maybe the Shadowmoon orcs from Draenor if we’re feeling adventurous.

I mean like why are we sending in the guy whose first act on the scene was to mess with the Hellraiser puzzle box that almost got him and his clown posse turned into shadowfiends and whose mind is constantly under siege from the forces of the void?

That’s someone you keep away from the frontlines during a void invasion.

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