Weep no more; the Cataclysm nears

[Faveyo-die-nachtwache]

@Kevork-thekal

feral is overpowered. To change that would require a lot of balance change to compensate.

really? feral looked weak in whitemane p2 i only saw rogue/hunter hunter/rdrood in 2v2 thats it

had full gear and every game was a 20-25 min game into a shaman healer, he didnt even lost mana

wotlk felt more fluently to me, and feral dmg looked better, but on whitemane cata it felt like i do negative dmg

[Rubl-firemaw]

@Kevork-thekal

tl;dr: Come play Cataclysm, arenas are great!

so great nobody touched or asked for Cata Arena the past 10years?

[Kevork-thekal]

Unfortunately,

@Rubl-firemaw

so great nobody touched or asked for Cata Arena the past 10years?

Factually wrong, Cataclysm private servers have had enough of a playerbase for the past 6 years at least. It’s worse than MoP however, which has always limited its popularity. It’s a good expansion, but it’s no one’s favorite.

@Faveyo-die-nachtwache

feral looked weak in whitemane p2

It definitely isn’t. Unfortunately, it’s one of the specs that benefits the most from PvE items in S10, especially in 2s with a healer. If you play with a rsham and no PvE items, games will end in draws any time you’re not facing a double DPS. If you play with a Disc Priest and you run Fireland weapon + Fireland Rep trinket + a couple off pieces from Firelands, you’ll shred through teams a lot more easily.

I don’t like Cataclysm Feral though, the energy starvation is too much for me.

[Rubl-firemaw]

@Kevork-thekal

Factually wrong, Cataclysm private servers have had enough of a playerbase for the past 6 years at least. It’s worse than MoP however, which has always limited its popularity. It’s a good expansion, but it’s no one’s favorite.

Really? i cant remember one. I only know Warmane closed its Cata Realm x years ago and Arena Tournament Cata lasted 2 months? until everyone went back to wrath because it was so much better and more popular then.

The thing you experience on whitemane rn will be the best cata arena you will experience all year because its soloque with random comps.

Once Cata released it will be the same 3 s-tier comps only and 1/3 of the ladder piloted. its still the same playerbase.

I liked Cata a lot especially 2v2 but wer are in 2024 - just check what happened to Wrath&TBC after all these years?

[Kevork-thekal]

@Rubl-firemaw

The thing you experience on whitemane rn will be the best cata arena you will experience all year because its soloque with random comps.

SoloQ barely qualifies as arenas. Every time it’s implemented in WoW, it makes PvP terrible. The experience itself is simply bad, and it has a tendency to reduce engagement in other brackets.

@Rubl-firemaw

Once Cata released it will be the same 3 s-tier comps only

There’s at least 10 comps that are rank 1 viable in Season 9, and just as many in Season 10.
Shall I list them? Sure, let’s go!

DK: TSG/PHDK/Shadowcleave/Vanguard
Warrior: Kitty/KFC/WMP-S/WLP-S
Hunter: Everything lmao, but mostly Jungle/Thug
Enhancement: Turbo/Ret+Enh/Enh+DK/Beast Cleave
Ele: LockEleHealer ( (can’t say the name of the comp because it’s the name of a drug) -P/Sham-Mage (Better in S10, but doable in S9)
Rogue: RMP/RLS/RPS/Smokebomb/Scoobydoo (That’s ret+rogue+healer)
Feral: You can practically play anything with a feral, but outside of the ones I’ve already mentionned: FMP - LockFeralRSham (can’t say the name of the comp because it’s the name of a drug) - FPS. You can probably get away with Ebola too.

I’ve already mentionned 25 comps, all of which are Rank 1 viable. Obviously not all S tier, but all viable to the highest level. There’s more comps, too, I just got lazy, and that’s not even taking into account the triple DPSes, and double healer comps.
Cataclysm has great comp variety in 3s.

In 2s, it’s more limited, but most classes are rank 1 viable too.

[Nsq-ravencrest]

Wonder why Ret+Rogue = Scooby-Doo…

[Kellerkoloss-hydraxian-waterlords]

if u really think cata pvp will save wow pvp…
it really seems that u have no clue about the private server tryhards, already playing every day right now
and yes botting will be super common in cata
it won’t be like the good old days, I can tell you this

same was on WOTLK… everyone was hyped and in the end u faced the same 5 teams above 2.4

[Marfushka-argent-dawn]

@Kellerkoloss-hydraxian-waterlords

it won’t be like the good old days, I can tell you this

Sadly you are correct, but that is not the fault of Cata, it is the fault of our times

[Kevork-thekal]

@Nsq-ravencrest

Wonder why Ret+Rogue = Scooby-Doo…

No idea, but it’s a cool name.

@Kellerkoloss-hydraxian-waterlords

it really seems that u have no clue about the private server tryhards, already playing every day right now

Of course I know him, he is me…

@Kellerkoloss-hydraxian-waterlords

and yes botting will be super common in cata

Nowhere near as common as WotLK bots, probably on a similar level as Retail bots, or kickbots back in the days.

@Kellerkoloss-hydraxian-waterlords

it won’t be like the good old days

Nor do I expect it to be. It is nonetheless a great expansion, for the most part.

@Kellerkoloss-hydraxian-waterlords

same was on WOTLK… everyone was hyped

No one was hyped, except private server enjoyers who have been playing WotLK for more than 10 years. Most of which are still on the same server. That’s not a sizeable part of the community.

Everyone else is waiting for MoP. Many of those will be playing on Cataclysm until MoP, though.

[Caleky-blackmoore]

@Kevork-thekal

No one was hyped, except private server enjoyers who have been playing WotLK for more than 10 years. Most of which are still on the same server. That’s not a sizeable part of the community.

Everyone else is waiting for MoP. Many of those will be playing on Cataclysm until MoP, though.

people who dont share my opinion „not sizeable part of the community“

my opinion „everyone else“

classic

[Kevork-thekal]

@Caleky-blackmoore

people who dont share my opinion „not sizeable part of the community“

It has nothing to do with my opinion. My opinion is that SoD is garbage, yet it is a sizeable part of the community. The lack of PvP on WotLK servers proves me right: WotLK PvP is very niche, and those who enjoy it are already on a private server.

@Caleky-blackmoore

my opinion „everyone else“

You must have been avoiding talking to other players for quite a while if you think MoP is not the most awaited expansion for arenas.

[Caleky-blackmoore]

Whatever floats your boat

Reality is Blizzard speedruns Cata surely because it is so hyped

[Kevork-thekal]

@Caleky-blackmoore

Reality is Blizzard speedruns Cata surely because it is so hyped

Obviously, Blizzard is known to cater to the PvP community…
Blizzard is speedrunning Cata because they know it won’t be as popular as previous Classic expansions, which is absolutely irrelevant in the case of arenas because the vast majority of players don’t ever do arenas. What matters is how many people actually play arenas.

[Sunny-aggramar]

@Kevork-thekal

Cataclysm is one of the best PvP expansion, alongside MoP and WoD. Come play it, it’ll be fun.

Yes it was fun, but I’m under no illusion me running around with HC cunning of cruel and tarcegosa legendary as moonkin was a massively unfair advantage, and don’t get me started on dagger rogues with vial trinket. Or ferals with that fricken unheeded warning PvE trinket.