We're Shadow Priests, not Void Priests

The original Shadowform visual should come back into the game, as a glyph if needed. The current Shadowform visual is just weird and wrong IMO, and don’t get me started on Void Form.

On a gameplay related note;
Please give us back the shadow orbs, Devouring Plague with Mind Flay Insanity, Spectral Guise, the hybrid aspect with the passive Vampiric Embrace healing to name a few things, the 2 talents to proc instant casts off the dots for movement heavy stuff, pfff.

Right now the only thing i like they gave Shadow Priests is Power Infusion. That’s it.

Please Blizzard, the Insanity ramp up crap and the tentacles and S2M need to go. Please.

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I submitted a ticket to have voidform baked into surrender to madness and made a talent.

It’s just not the spec I loved when I made this character anymore.

Orbs, can’t say I enjoyed it. Somehow I think I like orbs more than voidform though.

Or just plain old, WotLK style shadow priest. That’s it. No bells and whistles, plain, old, dot class.

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I preferred Cataclysm Shadow but would settle for this.

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Not to be that guy, but as for the title - shadow and void are the same thing in wow.

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Not exactly right. They were made to be the same thing in Legion, same time shadow priest aesthetics were changed to insanity-stricken-old-gods-whisper-hearing-tentacle-armed-cultists.

Some of us prefer the old class fantasy where it was simple shadows, and not tentacle stuff and the same abilities used by faceless ones. I am one of those.

I think it should remain at least as an option. The current void-tentacle-cultist aesthetic only fits 10%-20% of all shadow priest in lore and roleplay. The rest are stuck with it.

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Exactly. When I made this priest in tbc I didn’t sign up to have tentacles sprout out of me like mind controlling mushrooms out of a critter corpse.

https://scribol.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/default/files/images/Mushroom-Photo-1.jpg

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Good idea! +1 but what Shadow needs is possibility to be bursty, sustained is cool in raids, but for dungeons we need bursty talents.

Nope, I won’t offer an explaination but no you’re wrong

I’ll keep those, tyvm. Still, shadow priest was originally just that, a shadow priest. While I personally enjoy the void aesthetic, there are better ways to go about it. In my opinion? Make voidform a glyph and ditch the awful insanity mechanic altogether. Give us the choice to choose without impacting gameplay. A void talent would be completely redundant and add nothing at all considering the lack of real, impactful choices and the inevitability of meta at the end of the day.

Not quite, though. If you look at the cosmology chart, void is a kind of shadow that’s closer to the realm of the Old Gods. More concentrated and warped and tentacle-y, hence the necessity of that distinction in the first place. Void = shadow, but shadow =/= void.

Shadow is Void in the same way the water in my bathtub is the ocean.

One may come from the other, but the two are very different themselves.

Ok I’m kind of out of the loop, but you know the expansion is going to be called SHADOWlands right? Shadow magic is death magic, it’s what dks and spriests use. Void is space-stuff if I remember correctly.

Im afraid that’s incorrect.

Cosmology chart for your reference:

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they changed this again? Shadow magic used to be what dks also used… I cba anyone tbh

I 100% agree with the op.
This insanity must be stopped!

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There was a major retcon in Legion around shadow/void to make the two the same. Unfortunately Blizzard didn’t really provide explanation to all the differences. You are right, however, shadow priest / death priests were close to necromancers before Legion.

Agree… When I saw the overview of the shadow priest in shadowlands I got disappointed, I was hoping this voidform/insanity thing would be gone… I miss the orbs and devouring plagie… that was the best shadow priest imo… But seems like blizz got a thing for tentacles now sadly… shame really.

And yes please, old shadowform would be nice thnx!

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Thanks! I believe that death magic was actually a more fitting PRIEST spec than Void, like wtf.

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I would love for Blizzard to start making Glyphs to alter shadow more. personaly i wouldent mind a new Glyph of shadow ravens so instead of having a full shadow aura killing my mog i would have ravens flying around me. SHADOW RAVENS =)

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I miss glyph of crows.

Void makes sense, I don’t think it’s “un-shadow” like right now. It’s just not what people really want.

To me a Shadow priest is an ominous figure that stalks and leeches onto your mind, attacking you from the inside out.
The issue here is there’s a clear overlap with Affliction Warlock.
I think that’s Blizzards issue, they aren’t ok with Shadow sort of having an identity crisis, they want a set in stone theme, even if it’s not what the players want, because it fills that niche.

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