I’m not saying they’re lagging behind on defensive options - i’m saying they’re very squishy once you hit them. So if you take away their ability to kite like post creator suggests, then they’re definitely lagging behind. A big part of their defensive options IS the fact that they can kite (like most ranged tbh, to varying degrees)
I’m basically saying they’re fine
How are they more squishy than anybody else. Mfs are wearing Mail too.
Try playing one - armor type doesn’t necessarily mean how tanky a spec is. Warlock has historically been very tanky despite wearing cloth
Some classes’ survivability rely on being able to kite well (hunters, mages, and pretty much most ranged specs to warying degrees), and other specs are more tanky but doesnt kite (likely because they’re the ones being kited)
You can log on eny spec on the game and reserve high damage spikes, because of the burst meta
There is not a hidden node that increase damage on hunter
Meta ATM. Is bursty
People get TABBt regardless of the Specc
HP is too low ATM for every specc
It doesnt change the fact that some specs are squishier than others. It it what it is, idk what to tell you. Not every spec is equally tanky.
Take warlock and rogue for example. If they both just stand there and facetank it, the warlock is gonna live a lot longer than the rogue. Because like how the hunter relies on kiting to survive, the rogue relies on being able to dip in and out of combat to survive.
This is how the game works. It’s not because, like you say, there’s a hidden node that makes rogues and hunters take more damage. They’re just less tanky specs. It’s a fact
Like MM are insane tanky if they use there ability’s well and don’t face tank ?
Have you even read what I said? You’re arguing against points I haven’t made.
I’ve said hunters are fine, but you cannot take away their ability to kite because THEN it won’t be fine, because they’re a squishy class that relies on their ability to kite to survive.
Please read what i’m actually saying instead of guessing
Bro honestly nobody knows what are saying.
People say -Hunters are tanky because armor + kytability , cc and cds.
You: Ok but theyre squishy.
People: No bro , thats pretty tanky- they’re even using Mail and on top of these CDs they can also kyte so much while punishing you for following through.
You: Ok but once you catch them though.
People: ???
What part of mail user, 2x walls , turtle , 30% unaffected by dampening heal, pet- sanc + mobility and kytability tells you that Hunter is squishy ? compared to whom they’re squishy ?
I think this says more about your reading comprehension than anything, tbh.
I’ve said that hunters are fine 3 times now. But WHEN YOU’RE SUGGESTING TO PRUNE THEIR DEFENSIVE ABILITIES, they’re not gonna remain fine.
If you have a class that falls over really quickly IF you can hit them, and you take away their ability to kite, well then they’re not gonna be tanky, are they?
It’s like you think I am saying that hunters are already not doing fine, which I am not. They are fine BECAUSE they have these abilities to kite. But YOU’RE the one suggesting to prune them - to which I said; if you make them not able to kite well, then you need to buff their base tankiness. Otherwise everyone is gonna be able to 3shot them perma.
All you gotta do it look at the leaderboards and see MM is literally mid. I feel like this is a 1400 ‘I died to a MM hunter so they need to be nerfed’ whine post
Where did I suggest that ?
Can you show me where I suggest we should nerf specifically defensives ?
And then you call me out on having “reading comprehension issues”.
You can downplay it as much as you want.
They’re not simply Fine.
Do you deny that the toolkit that I described is owned by hunters ?
Do you deny that this toolkit is paired with insane damage and mobility and long range?
Hunter effectively has 0 weaknesses.
It does not. You’re simply not as good as you think.
Yes, I can show you where you suggest this:
Literally your entire initial post suggests, that hunters have too much slows/defensives. Did you already forget your own post?
Ok, read it again.
Because as far as I know these are not defensives.
I even forgot to mention that they can Stealth and drop DOT effects too.
I am criticizing the whole toolkit paired with Mail armor and insane range, damage, mobility.
Or in other words if a class is gonna be this tanky it better give on another departament.
But hunter remains strong on each one, regardless.
Are you playing stupid now? You mention a long range of things you don’t like about hunters, now you cherrypick the ones that fit your narrative even though those are not the ones I’ve talked about at any point?
Fact is that hunters are mediocre atm, and all you gotta do to verify that is to look at the leaderboard. I’m sorry you got skill-gapped by a hunter, but they not OP just because one of them clapped you 
I literally am with open palms the whole convo if there is anyone who is
Its you.
Ok since you wonna talk about me -i play Feral druid
Currently there are ~30 feral druids above 2.1- 2.5 and I was one of them til yday since you think im 1.4.
And there are more than 3 times hunters in the same range rating. Around ~100
Hunters literally deletes you every 20 seconds while also being uncatchable and unkillable.
Hunter is a popular class. It always has been. In addition it’s an easy class to play, unlike feral. This means there are probably gonna be more hunters in most ratings than ferals. Every class is good enough to get representation at 2100+.
I know mobility and slows weren’t the only thing you mentioned you didn’t like about hunters. I just chose to respond to that part of your post, because that’s the part I care about. I CBA if you think Kill Shot is the best execute in the game. It’s not, but IDC.
But you ALSO complained about their slows - which is what I wanted to respond to. Because I think it’s clueless to complain about a class that revolves around being able to kite people having slows.
You don’t get to choose what part of your post people respond to. You don’t get to decide how people respond. I can address the part of your post I think is relevant to respond to, and ignore the rest if it isn’t relevant to my point
Oh wait, didnt you bring the statistics up ?
And now you’re backing down to … how you said it … ah yes:
haha.
Bro you say one thing and contradict yourself 2 minutes later.
I will leave it at that.
And i dont wonna leave you with anything but you call S- tier mediocre and you make fun of B+ tier for not being able to handle it.
There’s a difference between choosing which point of a post you want to respond to when you mention 17 different things, and then pretending what I’m calling you out for isn’t at all what you said by bringing up every other point you made EXCEPT for the one I addressed.
You’re simply arguing in bad faith and fortunately for the rest of us, Blizzard is never gonna take people like you seriously 
Bro honestly, have a great day.
Bad faith= Selective comprehension & logical fallacies.
Got you.
Are you calling out me or yourself rn? Because selective comprehension is what perfectly sums up all your arguments this entire thread LMAO
Anyway, you can go back to screaming at the clouds about how unfair hunters are o/
Agree with op, buff hunters