I think marksman is fine, maybe their burst is a bit op. I think it’s just a case of feral being bad right now.
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Why is it always the players with mediocre PvP skill and 0 XP who feel the most entitled to decide what’s OP and what’s not?
Instead of wasting your time whining on the forums, try to actually improve and come back later when you’ve gained enough perspective to have something worth saying.
For now, watching a hardstuck duelist crying all day about every spec except his own is just ridiculous, lol.
If that spec is that OP, then go play it and show us if you can finally peak at something higher than duelist, big guy.
I think you’re being unnecessarily mean right now. Feral is in a bad spot. Top 40 holy paladin is 2300 while top 40 feral is 2000. Also this early in the season duelist rank is just fine. It might have been an emotional post but I’ve been guilty of those myself.
His all-time best is duelist, and he’s not even duelist right now.
This player has no clue on what’s happening in PvP, but still make bunch of posts about PvP balance.
i actually dropped from 2098 to 2k for the 3th time and 2.1 + contains 30 ferals.
Also ive been Elite 2x in shuffle last seasons.
I also led my own BGs during the boomie fiasco where you couldnt join rated bgs as a feral and were 2.3 during SL and there were a total of 5 ferals at above 2.2 rating.
im no gladiator Andy but if i were you id never allow myself to bash someone from my DH main.
Why dont you show us good youre on feral instead?
And i also dont see any motivation to push higher than 2.1 in this toxic enviroment.
This is a blatant lie tho. Can easily check achievements and see.
Also, you’re the one hiding behind a 45 DH.
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Then you have to read the hunter MMs crying about the ret because it’s broken, that they’re getting killed, and cry cry cry. Now, meanwhile, the MM is making over 10 million globally. Crits that can reach 10 million, and with one of the highest unit-target DPS, and destroying everything.
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I’m interested on what u say. My aimed shot barely hit 2M as crit…
Then maybe you should equip real gear and not grey items. Because most of the hunters on Arena hit you with aim for 1.8m non crit
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At least they cant attack during it unlike one sus ranged spec starting with letter R 
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Still immunity is an immunity. This is superb defense mechanic. The fact that Rets can damage and being immune during bubble just shows that super-effective defense mechanics should not be implemented in the way to allow user to be unpunishable.
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and that would be a bad thing why exactly?
I guess you mean Scatter Shot, since we don’t have two traps. Scatter shares DR with trap, and yeah… I miss the old days when it didn’t.
Trap itself is a spell designed for an older game — it can be pretty clunky to land nowadays (especially in RSS/Blitz) with all the pets/cleaves around… not to mention your own teammates …
Sure, but… almost every class has one, right?
Death. Awesome PvP talent, but unfortunately it feels mandatory.
Roar of Sacrifice, not really a “sanctuary”. Fun fact: if I duel a fire mage and he combusts on the first GCD, even if I pop RoS + Survival of the Fittest (our wall), I can still die because the damage is so high. Same thing with rets & subs since Legion (or BFA, not 100% sure). Flat damage is just overtuned (crits are nerfed in PvP).
I’m not saying RoS is bad—it definitely helps—but in a balanced game, if I pre-wall + RoS the opener, I shouldn’t die through it.
Nope. Exhilaration is affected by dampening.
Not really. Turtle gives -30% flat dmg taken (hi DoT classes!) and we can’t attack while it’s up. If you play hunter you can still drop Tar Trap to root the hunt (even in Turtle). If you want to talk about actual immunities, ask paladins.
Yeah, 4 sec every 45 sec. We’ve seen worse. And if the hunter has a pet out, you can always CC the pet.
Nah. Do you not remember warlocks?! MoP with Havoc + execute on pets, good times 
Nope. Mortal Wounds is from the pet. And honestly, the game is not very kind to pet classes right now.
Sure, that was strong back in BC, when you used your pet like that vs healers (and for pushback). But remember: if your pet isn’t in LoS, you get no RoS/Master’s Call. And about “stealthers”… xD they’re all night elves anyway, not really an issue.
Yep, it’s solid. But still not enough vs Sub with double vanish :s (or vs night elves).
Yeah, it’s 60 yards. But honestly, what would be the point of the spell if it had a short range?
True. I love niche spells like that—they give you opportunities to outplay your opponent. Same goes for Hibernate or priest spell vs lichborne.
It mostly reaps people who don’t use defensives and don’t interrupt/LoS our burst, fixed*
Don’t get me wrong, I basically agree with you, but you’re pointing out a lot of wrong stuff. Burst damage is too strong, and I think MM should be nerfed (like many specs, tbh). We’re very strong in Blitz (especially if ignored) and in random BGs—same as destro locks.
At the end of the day it’s all about balance. If you nerf our damage too hard, the spec will be weak. And yes, we do have weaknesses—like DoT classes. Luckily for us, affli isn’t really popular right now, and most people who pay attention to us during our burst.
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Bro literally thinks he can PR tone shift and downplay Hunters toolkit.
Proper delulu tactic.
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So lets clear thing up a bit:
1 trap second is rot and pretty useless vs most classes
Slow again is pretty useless vs most classes
2x wall yes but this wall is only 25% reduction while others have 40%
Feign is good vs things like chaos bolt only
Pet sanc only makes you unable to crit no reduction
30% heal with long cd again most classes have this or better
Turtle again very lond cd and most classes have some sort of this
Imunity to slows yeh 4 sec and again most clasess have this or something better ie.shaoeshift
Ms is gone for mm unless you have pet and mm plays without pet now
As said mm dont use pet
Fear on druids only in cat or bear easily avoided and no one play this anyway
Mark is good only for druids and druids dont rly need to restealthe
Long range is true
And they reap throughout only mages gl to try reap trough 40m effective healthpool warlock
With the amount of gap closers there are in the game, this would single handily be the most stupid decision anyone has ever made.
How about just reducing the damage hunters do… Not fundamentally destroying the entire class with one single stupid change.
believe it or not i also dont want any class to be destroyed either.
That’s a rarity. People these days love to be spiteful. If they see a class overperforming they crave for the class to be gutted into oblivion to the point it’s unplayable. The same people who will whine about class balance.
Thankfully Blizzard doesn’t listen to these people or PvP would’ve sealed it’s death a long time ago.
People also love to overcomplicate things. The damage is the problem, nothing else.
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Well if you check class representation above 2k in any bracket you will find that mm is yust fine, bm and survi perform better than mm to be honest
Irrelevant to retail. Dark Arrow is absolutely busted. I should not be getting hit for 10 mil by this.
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