What are 10 meaningful and fun endgame activities?

I’ve played WoW for the better part of 20 years, and aside from new expansions and patches, the magic is long gone for me. I like the lore and I like Azeroth, and I want to like the game. But I just find it incredibly boring.

That said, I think what I miss is the feeling of having meaningful things to do in the game. When new content drops, it does feel meaningful. But after a few weeks, it no longer does for me. I have a son and a busy job, and a number of hobbies, so just logging in to level my 55th alt doesn’t feel like a good use of my time. All the classes are tested, all the specs are played, and all the old legacy content is done (legendary quests etc).

So what’s left? I’d love to see a list of 10 things to choose from, so that I might find out and see if it feels meaningful and fun to me.

Here’s what I can think of so far:

  1. Raiding. Taking raiding more seriously by joining a guild.
  2. M+. People who do this always seem like they hate it, but I guess it’s a fun challenge?
  3. PvP. Try to get good at PvP and earn some of those PvP rewards.
  4. Becoming a true master at my Proffessions. I’m just not sure why?
  5. Do all the Pet Battle content, and specialize in collecting those.
  6. Ditto but mounts. This one feels especially pointless to me, since we only use Dragons.
  7. Completing every zone and quest in the game. Meaningless but sounds fun!
  8. … what else is there?
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  1. Achievement hunting.

Problem is, meaningful from what perspective, i have friends who log on every day to farm old content do old raids and complete transmog collections / mounts and pets.

I have people who only log on twice a weeek for raids and engages very little with anything outside of that.

Meaningful content is in the eye of the beholder realistically, and plenty will disagree with the reasons others have for playing.

You may find some of these things meaningless, however they arent to a audience of the game.

Imho DF has been fine, its given me activities to complete without a enforcement to log on every day, i can keep myself reasonably updated with the 3 or so days a week i log on for.

We are past a time where 1 mmorpg needs to cater to thousand things to do, and games have become rather niche in what they offer.

WoW has always been focused on the end game, farming gear obtaining highest ilevel and more. And that is meaningful to a catagory of players.

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It’s meaningful if it matters to you, if it doesn’t then its not.

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The problem with this question is - you ask for 10 examples, and you will get 1000 different answers. I personally cant think of 10 things that I do as my end game. Tge bits i do are…

World Quest- its great to just mess about especially as renown isn’t tied to power any more.

M+ - i dabble in it, not much good at it although i give it my best shot.

Legacy content- i love farming old dungeons and raids for mounts.

Achievements- tied in with Legacy stuff, although i dont actively go for them unless ots a particularly unusual one

If you like PvP, try out Solo Shuffle this thing is mostly the only reason I play retail.
Qs are long as dps but exciting worth it.

I think the things I’d find meaningful are:

  • Exploring and experiencing something new, which then becomes similar to watching a new film or reading a new book. It’s a journey you haven’t undertaken before. Typically, you get this from new expansions for a bit, and if they were to revamp the world. It would bring back some of that awe and wonder from 2004, when Azeroth felt like a world.
  • A fundamental upgrade of character customisation, to the point where my Night Elf (for example) feels so unique, so cool, and so appealing to play that basically any content feels worthwhile to experience through the lens of this character. But right now, I think they’re all being held back by things like poor animations and lacklustre options for faces, hairstyles, etc. They don’t feel unique or very alive. In 2004 they looked so bad it worked, because of suspension of disbelief. Now they look all right, but don’t feel very personal because they’re all the same.
  • Added depth to casual content. For example, if all you did was Fish all day long, and you’d eventually catch super rare and very expensive species of fish (or even loot), then that content would be very appealing to specialise into. Same with Herbalism, Pet Battles, and so on. But right now, anything you do in this regard is basically rendered obsolete by the time you’re done, because it’s all puddle-deep and meant only to tide you over until things like raiding begin. There’s no reason to go fishing old species of fish or to collect a bunch of legacy reagents, because it’s all useless.

I guess I’ll just take a break. :slight_smile:

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i don’t find the open world content in dragonflight fun either, that’s why i started playing other games today since things won’t change anytime soon. new zone will become old and boring in a month and probably most of the things they’ll bring with it won’t matter after few weeks. old expansions had things to keep us busy at least, right now they’re still the things that keep me busy :stuck_out_tongue: if you’re not part of a raiding guild or a m+ pushing group ,there’s nothing else in current end-game , but that’s for me obv. if you want you can farm reps renown etc. but i don’t do those things unless they’re super fun or useful for other things.

dragonflight doesn’t feel great as a casual player but it’s perfect for people who are raiding with a good guild or have a decent m+ group

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Pvp solo shuffle!
You dont have to be anywhere to do solo shuffle, want to quest while grinding rating? No problem! Just press that button and do something else while you wait, do your casual content while grinding meaningful content. On top of that you get to face real players, you learn how your class is actually supose to work and very few number of people can actual pvp so in the open world your odds of being better than the average even if youre terrible is very high.

Meaningful and fun are subjective.
What you may hate, some may love.

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i played this game for 13 years and never went for that.
thats not what a normal wow player should go after ,unless you did all the game content and dont know what to do anymore.
even that im on that level i dont go for Achievement hunting.

if you have a son and your a grown up person/
you shouldnt waste your time in a video game that is full of 13 to 20 years old kids.

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I think it’s fine to take breaks between patches or simply play less, been bored of WoW myself lately and everytime I log in it’s only for an hour or two max.
New patch is here soon to bring back some enjoyment.

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I don’t know how old you are, but trust me, people don’t stop enjoying their hobbies just because they grow up and get new responsibilities. We’re not living in the 50s.

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What I play tends to get decided by what I can manage, as trying to rush to keep up with others is hard for me.
(Arthritis of the hands, reaction times, and getting overwhelmed by heavy movement / fight discos :smile:).

So I mostly do solo fairly relaxed open world content or a friend sometimes helps with a quest dungeon if I am desperate.

There is a vault in the Forbidden Reach to explore solo and get a 405 ring which you can socket with various effect stones. You can return to it often as you like, no timer either Yay ! Just need lots of keys, wish my blacksmith could make a few.

Also nice puzzles to figure out, movement effects to play with if you don’t slavishly follow a guide.

Not sure if that is your main Ithilun, but there is upgradable ‘catch up’ gear in The Forbidden Reach to level 389 with sigils from rares
and 395 with purple book things from very tough mobs.

The War Creche (awful place without backup) can be farmed for weekly dust, 385 account bound gear for alts and upgrade tokens.

On alts, I still keep finding new places not marked on the map, and seeing the new little Tuskar villages and characters brings a smile. The world feels a lot nicer to look at and explore than SL ever was.

You’re*

Most players are over 30 here and plenty of people play together with their kids.

  1. Collecting transmog.
  2. Finding different ways to level.

You know, if you want them to quit and uninstall you can just say it. No need for these roundabout ways of “try out solo shuffle” etc.

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Fun is subjective what you find fun others might hate with a passion.

Personally i cant stand crap like raiding anymore and M+ kind of stuff sounds most unfun thing since reality tv

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No, I don’t know.
SS is a great thing, especially when everyone accepts their own mistakes first and doesnt blame it on everything around instead of himself.
People are different, looks are different, I just gave an idea, so dont impose your negative view on it. The person asked for advice what to do, but not how to look at things.

Some do. I always thought “growing out of gaming” means I no longer have the desire to play games, not that I want to but can’t enjoy them anymore.

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YOU MEAN BUNCH OF MANCHILDS?
who are over 30 years old but their mentality is childish?

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