What are the weaknesses of Rogue?

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rogues dont have BUBBLE!
rogues dont have STEAL MAGIC!
rogues dont have POLYMORPH!
rogues dont have CHARGE!

GIVE THEM ALL, THEY ARE SO UNDERPOWERED.
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12/11/2018 20:18Posted by CrĂłws

Strawman much?

1. Nah just pointing out that how clueless you are
2.Baised much? Ofc you are since you're an rmp/rogue player.

Good Rogues(because they can prefeint idk if you know about this, but I assume not from your comments) are not squishy, they are the target because mages can kite to oblivion. Also in before you come with the argument (just like the rest of the idiotic rogue players) that they die in a stun , I'll just tell you that any class can die in stun, so no biggy in here.
They have a way too much tools compared to other classes. I'm not saying to prune them I want the rest of the classes to be brought to rogues lvl.
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I have 2 big issues with rogue. First issue is that if I’m lucky and manage to find a rogue and reveal them, there is seemingly no punishment for that. I played a lot back in Wotlk and revealing a rogue early was a huge punishment to them for getting caught, all that opening damage was gone because they’d been caught. Now it seems like stealth has very little to do with their opening damage, so really catching them means nothing (you avoid being sapped at most).
Secondly their ability to reset a fight is insane. Against melee it’s a little more managable you can wait for bleeds to reveal them again. But if your playing caster they can just cloak vanish. It doesnt matter if your a 2.6kcr rated frost mage vs a fresh 120 rogue with no PvP experience, he can just press 2 buttons and reset or escape and theres absolutely nothing a caster can do about it.
Feral drood resets are acceptable because they have to kite until dots have expired and get out of combat before they can reset (they actually have to work for it).

TLDR:

  1. Getting caught in stealth should be more punishing to rogues.
  2. Resetting and escaping made far too easy by cloak and vanish.
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You took my comment and blew it out of proportion so it would mean whatever you wanted. Aka strawman.
That’s what clueless people tend do when they can’t respond to the actual argument, which by the way wasn’t even an argument, merely information of how those defensives worked. See, you can’t even do a proper strawman right. Tss tss.
So… right back at ya there about being clueless. ^^

It’s also something considered to be difficult to pull off at a steady basis. You know, things you can’t do. Ever.

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Just because you can’t play it in hands of proper players it’s over the top. I’m the clueless when you’re defending a class which is over the top. The baise is real

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Nice, another string of insults. I wonder if you can have a conversation without them.

Yeye, and you’re not biased at all. It’s not at all the reason you are making up long stories of some short comment I made.

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Okey let’s try your way, I’ll try to explain without insults. So please tell me how can people achieve ratings above 2k while playing rogue when they couldn’t even go for 1.750 before BFA?
And while you are playing against them they have clearly no clue what they are doing just randomly going for a KS and globaling you through your defensives up.
I’m waiting

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This is a very good idea. It’s really stupid that once rogues leave stealth, they still have this 3 sec window where they can use their stealth abilities.

Subterfuge needs to be either removed or reworked.

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class that have:

silence openner followed by stun, followed by extra stun.
blind
vanish
dodge
heal
great burst

frost mage is getting nerfed so should rogue.
fire mage need 10 sec cd on greater pyroblast, they are abusing 40-70k dmg.
boomkins need their dmg shaved by 30%

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It’s from WoD but 100% accurate right now. I wonder how is it possible anyone still tries to white knight for rogues in any type of content. They are the only melee class that you ever wanted to stack for soaking and now for damage, they have just stupid ST burst paired with AoE sustained dps that outclasses 90% of other classes, cheat deaths, skipping mechanics (fetid miasma for example), self heals and crapload of other gimmicks.
In PvP they’re the only class that basically soloes 2 people in arena reliably. Seen 2,5k+ rated 2’s in BfA? I think it was Pshero or Ziqo, if your mate dies - wait for 30+% dampening, CC one guy, blow up the other, finish off the first guy, GG queue next. Unless lucky you just won’t get a rogue out of stealth, which is plain stupid. Slow applied from autoattacks unlike for example warriors who need resources and GCD xD, tone of CDs that can be used both defensively and offensively. It’s utterly stupid how overpowered rogues are in all kinds of PvP environment. 3’s - 50% rogues, RBGs - rogues never loose 1v1s, laughable world pvp - rogues snipe people without any effort, 2’s - rogues all the time. And fun fact is that it’s been this way for years. It’s always top pick for everything pvp-related and since m+ became a thing pve-related as well.

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I agree rogues are in a good state atm.
But people are really mixing up specs.
Remove subterfuge would do a whole lot

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Rogues hate when you do that left and right strafing movement quickly or by default pressing Q and E very fast on your keyboard, its like insulting them thus causing them to lose concentration.

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When vs a assa rogue with a rsham. your better of just afk. Assa is legit so aids and 0 brain its unreal. Kidney > your def cd > dead.

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Happy holidays to all of you.

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No purge, huge weakness atm. Please give rogue purge :slight_smile:

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Being able to stun someone 6 out of 20 seconds is a very good defensive mate.

But then you add permaslow, Evasion, Cloak, Sprint, Vanish, Shadowstep and they’re very f’n good.

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As a arcane mage, i cant kite rogues. Instead i get kited with that throwing knife.

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please dont put stuff like this blizz will fall for it and actually give it to them

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Rogues disgustingly overpowered since … forever? But blizzard don’t care at all. They think that it is always necessary to have class for easy brainless “owners”. :smirk:

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like demon hunter, fury warrior, moonkin, frost dk, right? :slight_smile: