What do you guys think about the 8.1 Warlock changes?

[Affliction]

PvP Talents

Curse of weakness
Reduces the target’s Physical damage dealt by 25%attack power by 30% for 10 sec.

NEW
Demon Armor
Protects the caster, increasing maximum health by 10% and increases armor by 125%.

[Demonology]

Bilescourge Bombers
Tear open a portal to the nether above the target location, from which several Bilescourge will pour out of and crash into the ground over 6 sec, dealing (14%21% of Spell power) Shadow damage to all enemies within 8 yards.

Nether Portal
Tear open a portal to the Twisting Nether for 2015 sec. Every time you spend Soul Shards, you will also command demons from the Nether to come out and fight for you.
Cost changed from 3 Soul Shards to 1 Soul Shards

Sacreficed Souls
Shadow Bolt and Demonbolt deal 5%4% additional damage per demon you have summoned.

Soul Strike
Command your Felguard to strike into the soul of its enemy, dealing [1 * (Spell power * 0.350.5) * 1 * 1 * (1 + Versatility)] Shadow damage.

PvP Talents

Call Observer
Summons a demonic Observer to keep a watchful eye over the area for 20 sec.
Anytime an enemy within 20 yards casts a harmful magical spell, the Observer will deal up to 5% of the target’s maxiumummaximum health in Shadow damage.

Curse of weakness
Reduces the target’s Physical damage dealt by 25%attack power by 30% for 10 sec.

[Destruction]

Backdraft
Conflagrate reduces the cast time of your next Incinerate or Chaos Bolt by 30%. Maximum 2 charges.

Rain of fire
Calls down a rain of hellfire, dealing [(13.5% of Spell power) * 8] Fire damage over 8 sec to enemies in the area.
Range changed from 35 yd range to 40 yd range

Summon Infernal
Summons an Infernal from the Twisting Nether, impacting for (60% of Spell power) Fire damage and stunning all enemies in the area for 2 sec.
The Infernal will serve you for 30 sec, dealing [(50% of Spell power) * (84) / 100] damage to all nearby enemies every 2 sec and generating 1 Soul Shard Fragment every 0.5 sec.

PvP Talents

Curse of weakness
Reduces the target’s Physical damage dealt by 25%attack power by 30% for 10 sec.

NEW
Demon Armor
Protects the caster, increasing maximum health by 10% and increases armor by 125%.

[General]

NEW

Demonic Embrace
Stamina increased by 10%.

Casting Circle
Summons a Casting Circle for 8 sec. While within the casting circle, you are immune to silence and interrupt effects. Learning Casting Circle causes Unending Resolve to no longer grant immunity to silence and interrupt effects.
Cast Time changed from 1.5 sec cast to 0.5 sec cast


Going to give you guys my two cents on Demo Lock.
I had hopes there would be some “cool” changes to demo this patch, and am left apathetic. So i will break the new changes down. This is only my opinion, so take it as it is.

I fail to see any scenario where i would pick this talent over Demonic Strenght Maby in Isle Expeditions? o.O

So you made the Cost less but at the same time you nerfed the time its open from 20 sec to 15. But it still have a 3 min CD. I dont get the logic behind this.

Now this i like, i play alot of random pvp. ( i have tryed arena, i died a little bit inside after that experience)
I welcome the dps buff to this talent.

WHY? WHY? WHY? Is it realy that OP? You devs realy want us to use that Nether Portal dont you?

I dont know what to think about all this. i am gonna test it when 8.1 goes live.
But i have a sad feeling im going to cancel my sub at the 20th if this is it.

Side note:
Blizzard could have done so much more for this class.
Maby given us Roots, Slow or Disarm for pvp, this is just booring.
it looks like we are going to be the glorofied Training Dummy`s for melee this exspansion.

We need demonic circle baseline because we need mobility in this curtent meta. It is absolutly no fun with zero mobility.

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This!
You heard the man - give us Demonic Circle BACK!

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What I think? Well let’s just say this toon hasn’t seen any action since I got exalted with Honorbound :stuck_out_tongue:

But seriously, I can’t play without Focused Chaos and Entrenching Flames so that leaves me 1 choice for a “new” talent. It’s a joke. #shelved.

Can’t say I’m surprised. I’m just wondering when they’ll finally decide to delete warlocks

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Absolutely awful. Not a single change the community were asking for, and I’m not just talking about the warlock community.

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and

  • instant shadowfury
  • shadowburn as 100% crit execute when the target is below 20% hp
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I find it so weird that we dont have instant shadowfury. In PvE you can kind of time it. But sometimes you need it right now. And with the long CD unless talented, it dont make sense to have it with a cast time.
In pvp o boy cast time is even worse. lets say you want to fear into shadowfury. Now you have the enemy running around randomly back and forth and then you have to time it so the shadow connects. i have had to stop my cast so many times becouse the feared target ran out of the shadowfury aoe. this is just counter-intuitive. And trying hitting anyone with movement speed increase is just very hard to pull off.

Totaly agree instant shadowfury and Demonic circle baseline would be great, and FUN to play with.

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sigh… still trash

god i miss mop destro.

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Dis warlock is killed by Blizzard plz all warlock stop playing dis class then Blizzard finally understand our requests.

No changes to voidwalker, no perma infernal. Literally unplayable.

guess it’s over guys, patch comes next week and we get nothing except demon armor for pvp

and demon armor is too weak against melee cleave

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Destruction? More like nothing.

¿What changes? I see the same trash class

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I’m absolutely stunned about the amazing hard work these developers put into Destruction. All you need to know is… Chaos Bolt and literally everything else means nothing. Thanks and continue having fun guys. Just as long as you’re not stacking UAs, you should be fine.

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guys remember that blizz said that we can expect pvp changes to warlocks because they know that warlock is so weak ( that was like 1-2 months ago ) I’m still waiting but I dont see anything, only nerfs f.e (UA, oneshot affi trait, demo lock) Nice we gonna be even more insane when 8.1 comes

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You know they have zero plans for changes if they have the class doing high damage in raids. That’s their way of indirectly telling you to yet again(second expansion in a row) either do PvE or buy a boost for another class.

Anyone with any hopes whatsoever for the class to be changed in any way is beyond delusional. They’re too busy revamping Shadow Priests(already one of the highest in damage) while writing them an essay-long apology for not doing this sooner.

I’m also thinking how is even possible to don’t do all of this changes earlier ??? I thought that blizz is waiting for the end of season 1 but nope (KURWA hotfix every fvcking patch it means every 2-3 months)

and remember “Note that we’re planning another round of balance updates for the near future after this round, which will include changes for other specs (including Warlock and Death Knight).” THAT WAS 3 months ago

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They’ve pruned the spec so much they don’t even know how to make it good

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they don’t care about locks in pvp or pvp in general

sounds like “Shut Up pvp guy!! we’ll give demon amor back to you”

that ability pruning is so annoying … and fail designs like cast time on shadowfury are hilarious

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