What do you think about getting to Battle for Azeroth Classic?

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Yes, I know this is very controversial, but here goes my opinion.

So far we have classic mode, which makes you experience the gameplay and story of the first map

Then we have, so far, classic cataclysm, which allows you to play in such a way that you can more or less level up and enjoy the character development as you did back in the day, more or less, go through bc or wotlk, and thus be able to enjoy the world, the challenges, the useful professions in your area while you play, etc.

So far so good, given that bfa level is 120, and then the level crush was done, a classic up to bfa would not be bad, you could enjoy classic and its story and its map while you develop your character, then from classic up to bfa to level up and enjoy the world as it was.

So we start another era, starting from sl with the lvl crush until, if the game continues like this, they should do another lvl crush, since we are at 80 again, and it is a matter of time before we reach 120 again.

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I personally think they should have slowed down with content release for the next expansion in classic.

They should have followed the same release schedule, as right now, “classic” will be up to DF before the time we reach Season 4 of TWW.

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I think Classic goes up to WotLK, and I think the player popularity indicates that as well.

Expansions beyond that are probably better suited for Remix, because they’re so ingrained in the modern systems of WoW.

I think future Classic development will revolve around Season of [insert theme], which can then be pitched for 60, 70, or 80 content.

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Imo classic fits only up to Cata. Everything after that would work best like the Pandaria Remix.

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This. Should’ve ended there. But greedy company is greedy.

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Here is my take on BFA and similar expansions.

They have 1 BIG problem : Borrowed Power.

Borrowed power mechanisms were designed to be “farmed” constantly, and as an integral part of the game.

And I highly doubt the Classic Community actually wants that. And the Retail one ? Even less !

And then Raids and Dungeons. They are too similar to Retail. So it begs the question : Why play BFA classic when you can play Retail instead. I mean, SoB is part of the M+ rotation this season ! :smiley:

So just from that IMO it would be a flop.

What you could do is remove those systems. But then it would not be BFA classic. It would be BFA remix.

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In my opinion classic ceased to exist when Cata released, it simply changed too much to be considered the same game.

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The people who like Classics don’t want a Remix. They want to play the old specs and classes in the old environments.

Classic isn’t really for me. I go, I find the systems are terrible, the gameplay is slow and often dire, everything is just to gate you and slow you down (ironic considering Retail gets a lot of flack for this).

I think my biggest issue is the rose tinted glasses. You don’t remember what it was like, you just remember you had fun at the time. But now it’s no longer fun.

For others ofc it still is fun.

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I dont see why we have classic for anything past the initial launch of WOW. It should have been just that and if any new content it should be NEW content. Splinter off for new stories not just rehashing expansions.

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I think it comes down to supply and demand, I also think the demand will lessen the further they push into old expansions (Cata → Panda → WoD).

If there is no money to be made, it will stop being a thing and be shutdown. I personally still enjoy Classic (Vanilla), more so that these last 3 expansions, and TWW, which I haven’t even considered buying yet.

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i want “the War Within” classic !

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I think the concept was not well understood, it’s not that we want ww classic, let’s see…

It’s true that we will never be able to live the expansions as they were, due to events and a thousand other things, but it is true that the closest thing we can do is play them in a “classic” mode, and before the level flattening this could be done more or less, you could play bc and then go to wotlk, and your character progressed, went up in level, your character gained new useful weapons, your character learned useful things about professions, etc etc, there was always a progression, and something to do, it’s true that those expansions have already passed, but there are people who want to play them again, in a more or less satisfactory way, I think that a classic up to bfa would not be a bad idea since after the level flattening, the world changed forever, and I’m not saying that it’s bad, but why not please all the players? I mean, a server with few realms would be enough, and that way you satisfy other types of players, and those who don’t like it, well, they don’t play and stay in retail, I don’t see the problem.

It’s a game where the cool content is only at the end, and you deprive new players of the experiences of the old world content, why not give options? I mean, wouldn’t everyone win?

A bandit in elwynn forest will give you a weapon that does 50 damage, and if you kill ilidan 5 minutes later, he’ll also give you a sword that does 50 damage, the experience in that sense is broken… there’s no sense of progression if you don’t go to the end of the game, and I repeat again, I don’t think it’s bad, I think the system is cool and so you can level faster and such, but I repeat, why not give people the option? Same as with the classic world, where you can experiment, why not let, at least experiment, how far the levels go, in this case bfa, since now, we are creating a new era, from the lvl crush, we start the race to the level again? new crush? will we have classics divided into blocks of 6,7,8 expansions? sounds better than making classics of all… I don’t know XD

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Retail

  • Gated gear upgrades~ (Crests~ ilvl fixed etc ) It’s even worse than Classic since in classic you have the item ~ that’s all . Retail you have the item , run dungeons for crests …run more higher lvl dungeon to upgrade an item from 5 to 7 times…)
    Imagine playing in Classic and getting an item in Tier 2 and to upgrade you need Tier 3 content :smiley: It’s the same with the crests…

  • Gated reputation ~ A yes A weekly reputation via …kill rares with a spawn rate of 45 minutes …that’s fun waiting for that 150 rep…

  • Gated professions skills/talents… (take 3 + months for gathering professions to acquire the tool ~ accessories and 5 months if you trade some Artisan Equity for the 10 knowledge Skills)
    I started 4 months beo

  • Gated lvl-up for Brann in Delves and reputation…a yes only takes experience from Bountiful and you can do only 4 of them …

i could add even more …

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I only play Classic! For me the current Retail game is just a pointless mess. The world is pretty much irrelevant, they might as well start you at max level when you buy the expansion and then once you log on just give you a menu saying “Which queue would you like to join?” So for me nah wouldn’t play a BfA Classic.

I agree that it should gone to WOTLK and stopped there. I would also like to see some kind of Classic fresh or Classic +. I like the fact they are doing SoD to experiment with what people enjoy and what they don’t. Maybe that will feed into a permanent Classic +.

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When it comes to classic reputations, I have them ALL to exalted. Even obscure ones (Ravenhold) and even the ones that dont exist anymore (like the weird elves in the old Dire Maul). Check out my main at the time : Zavia-Uldum

And classic also had time-gating. But it was done in a different way. You had to turn in / kill a stupid amount of things for 2 or 5 rep a pop.

Which made “farming reps” the most gruling, time consuming thing ever. And nobody but the ones that could play 12h a day ( this guy for example ) could ever dream of acheiving exalted for the current content.

And … you NEEDED those reps for atunements. Like the Nax atunement, the Upper Black Rock atunement, Molten Core atunement… all EXTREEEEEEMLY annoying to farm.

Much better now to be honest. Google : classic raid attunement. If that is not timegating i dont know what is…

Its better now. In classic you got your tier 2 item… and got NOTHING for months and months… ALL the content you did was completely irrelevant. Today, every single dungeon you do gives you something.

And ilvl upgrades are DETERMINISTIC. In classic you relied on pure 100% RNG for those upgrades. Which caused a LOT of pain for players.

Many of the relevant recepies in classic professions came from RNG drops from raids.

Or worse ! Required exalted with hard to grimd reputations … Or … Extremely grindy materials.

This. 100%.

You have to remember that retail is nothing more than a series of blizz attempts to remove all the annoying things from previous expansions.

If vanilla was as awesome as some people claim it to be, they would not have changed many things from it.

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So, if they do it right, it wouldn’t be a bad idea either, right? I mean, if they start making classic expansions, and they fix what was wrong at the time, and they balance certain things, I don’t know, maybe it won’t be so complicated to get reputation, to make a certain balance in the classes, to remove annoying things or to add new ones that improve the game, but without losing the essence, “as I think has partly happened with the game”, they have room to experiment, and if they want to be able to offer a product at the level, all they need to do is put on the glasses of what people want and we’re going to listen to them, and not wear so much the glasses of we’re going to get money at any price…

As much as it is said, it is a company… and it has to try to make money… and blah blah blah, yes it is true, but bliz was also a company 15 years ago, it also tried to make money, and yet they did things better, from my point of view.

In short, they have the technology, they have the means, they have the ideas… but I think they lack will

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