What happened to Paladins?

I’ve been playing this game along time, granted very casual and mostly for transmog.

My paladin was my main from TBC to Legion after which is jumped between monk and Dk.

I levelled my Monk first this expansion and loved the changes to windwalker. A few interesting builds and choices.

Then I levelled my unholy dk, even better again, loads of different options, interesting choices and I looked forward to my next talent point while levelling.

Then I seen humans were getting heritage armour and I got hyped and decided to brush off my old main paladin.

Ugh what a disappointment.

None of the talents set my world on fire and that includes the class tree.

Auras remain stale
Builders feel weak
Mobility is just as awful as it has been for ages
Very little interesting builds and synergy’s
A weird consecration build which wouldn’t be so bad if it followed the paladin.
A couple of talents that buff wings but that’s not new and makes wings even more of a crutch.
That seasons buff from shadowlands it’s just naff and doesn’t feel paladin.
Why are we squishy! Wouldn’t mind the lack of mobility if we were hard to kill.

The whole class feels stale, never mind other specs (holy mastery looking at you).

I actually think ret was better in wrath.

What happened to the three different judgements
What happened to aoe judgement it was so much fun.
What about a talent path that takes away the reliance on wings.

I miss buffs, seals and surely there’s some better ideas for auras.
Crusader aura and dev aura should almost be always on. Why not have a few options like 3% haste aura, anti stun aura, poison cleanse aura, 3 percent holy damage aura, mana regen aura, increase healing aura. Create so many auras that it gives a choice.

Also why is hammer of wrath a really poor execute? Why no talents to make it a powerful execute? It used to be great back in the day, now it feels rubbish to press.

There has to be better ideas for the class out there. What about having a falling sword teleport move similar to garen in league of legends.

Anyway I’ve ranted enough, I just wish the in game paladin would fit the idea i have on my head of the wow holy knight

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Paladin main since vanila here, i couldnt relate more to what you said op.
I really wish aswell to bring the class fantasy back for paladins, and all classes in general cause one thing i noticed is, as expansions goes by class fantasy went totally prunned and everything feels non-flavoured.
Warlock and his pets is a GREAT example of this.

I miss the days when a new expansion announced and i couldnt wait to see whats new (spells - kit ) wise for my class!
Devs dreamed and executed the same with us in older expansions… you can see that on vanila----> to TBC-----> to Wotlk ------->To Cata------> Mop -------Wod… until the master PRUNNER of fantasy and class design came, LOLGION.
-end of my rant-

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were a dead class left behind in the wake of ridiculis classes like the all new shining dragonhead people im afraid my friend only diehard pallas like myself still main it even as prot and prot is at best B tier now. i wish prot palla was once again something people didnt attack because it was just a pain in the a55 to kill instead of an easy target for a little honor and declined for m+ because a warr signed up or even better still a leather wearing dh is a better damage absorber with better mobility,dps and self sustain. blizz is clearly run by palla hating a55hats

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As a Holy Paladin main, I’m currently waiting for sub to expire (next week), and then I’m gonna have a vacation from WoW. I was waiting for buffs since the release or some kind of Holy Rework, but we’re useless in PvP, M+ groups don’t want to take Holy Paladins, because why would they when 70% of healers are Rdudu or Pevoker (they do 50% more healing, and 300% more DPS). We’re the healers with lowest throughput in Raid, so they take us only for the 3%, and as a tank healer. I got no expectations going into Dragonflight, but man, I was surely let down anyway. It seems like all of the competent devs already left the company.

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Paladin is a relic of a class, so stale, I can only speak for Holy because that’s what I have most experience with but we got absolutely gutted in SL S1 because were on top and then we had to rely on borrowed power the rest of SL to stay competitive. Then DF rolls around and we get the Night Fae ability that literally no one used while they took away Shock Barrier which was kinda weak but in my opinion should have returned in a tweaked format and Vanq Hammer that made Holy actually capable.

Now we have nothing.

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Paladin dev should legit get fired, all 3 specs of paladin are useless compared to other classes in all forms of content

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Also I think a nice ‘Niche’ for Ret would be a Melee focus with a ‘window’ (possibly during wings?) where you can access empowered ranged abilities, big ranged hammers and big exorcisms for example, possibly another new spell thrown in for good measure.

Once that window is over you are back to melee maintenance until your next window. I think this would be cool.

probably won’t happen, because probably only monkeys with brain chips from elon musk work there.
Silverface has already said extremely important things above and I can unfortunately confirm it. I have loved to heal as a pala for many years, but now it is not possible.

even as a tank i almost never find a group because other tanks do it much better. although I’m already extremely carry in jade 20 and it’s mostly timed run. and i don’t even get invites for other dungeons because other tanks can faceroll them completely.

its getting overhauled in 10.0.7

The PTR version 10.0.7 for Holy Paladins is ridiculous!

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log too. I do not know if I should laugh or cry.
just sick changes.

and I would like to heal too. but now or after the new patch? rofl?

good or bad?

Bad, overhaul for Holy spec dont exist, and paladin tree is useless.

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