What happened to the 4th war and its consequences?

You mean you want to turn this game into your own echochamber?
You are aware that Dragonflight flopped, right? It’s laughed at from every corner. Even Reddit is making fun of the Drac’thyr and the expansion feeling like a Disney setting.

What’s with it with you to have the need to control the narrative so much? Dragonflight IS doing bad. The amount of discounts, the free trial, the lack of passion, the sale number not being reported. The people are tired with the way Warcraft has been going, and this whimsical stuff isn’t helping.

Oh man a game called World of WARcraft has strive and conflict?
Colour me surprised!

Don’t worry you will have your wish if Blizzard continues to cater to people like you and this franchise ends up dead in the gutter. There’s a dozen MMO’s without faction conflict yet you choose the only one with faction restrictions and in your arrogancy you wish to see it removed.

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Warcraft is the title of an RTS
World of Warcraft means the world that the Warcraft RTS is set in.
Not World where all that matters is war-craft.

It is about brand recognition. Otherwise it would be called Azeroth Online or something

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Warcraft revolved around faction conflicts from day one. The vety first quest you accept in the starting zones is related to the factions. You aren’t someone special. You’re first and utmost a recruit for the Alliance or the Horde in training.

Do you people even read quest texts? It went so bad with Warcraft that they had to bring Metzen back. Danuser is incompetent.

Going back to the basics mean going back to that aesthetic of Warcraft which revolved around the two factions and their conflict in a world that’s already sunk in chaos.
Not just to simply add dragons and elementals and call it a day.

You see, BfA was written like garbage, but the hype for that expansion was out of this world. There were people rallying to the forums to defend their faction. It was so interesting to see. Despite Tah trying to uphold a constant narrative based on nothing but lies, the faction war in BfA got people hyped in overdrive.

What was the hype about Dragonflight? Unreported sale numbers, a trailer with only 2 million views, lower participation numbers in raiding and m+, the lore forums becoming a ghost town, Blizzard throwing out discounts begging people to come back.

Utter comedy that people like Tah thinks this expansion is the best thing ever.

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Yes the writing is in the pits, I will agree with that.

But the player is hardly any sort of part of an army or government body in either faction.
We are adventurers, swords for hire to be used and dismissed after all is said and done. We are not regular solders that are under the permanent authority and care of anyone.

A soldier would not be left to wander and fend for themselves like that.

This is one of the biggest weaknesses of WoW. The identity of what the player is, is constantly fluctuating.

In Star Wars the lines are clearly defined. Same with FF14 where you are actually the main character and not someone who just does the job for the NPCs to take credit in cutscenes and the novels.

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You are a soldier in your faction, if you choose to involve yourself in PvP, faction conflict. There’s military ranks you can earn, PvP factions to earn reputations with. All in their own fashion.

You were the commander in WoD, you’re a representative of your faction on the Dragon Isles.

You are sent to Outland by your own faction.
You are sent to Northrend by your own faction.
You are sent to Vashjr by your own faction, or to Hyjall to represent your own faction.
You’re sent to Pandaria by your own faction.
You’re sent to WoD by your own faction.
You’re sent to the Broken Isles by your own faction.
You’re sent to Zuldazar or Kul’tiras by your own faction.

You’re not a soldier, but you are a conscript for your own faction. What delusion are you under exactly? The factions are the spine of this game. You’re not just some adventurer, you’re a conscript for your faction.

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Not necessarily. It could indicate that Shadowlands did such a damage to WoW’s reputation that it takes a lot of effort for people to trust in the game again and give it another chance. And since the vast majority of opinions I hear ingame or here on the forums are mostly positive, I am sure that is the case.

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As I said, conscripts are under direct command and pay.
They are not shipped to a place and then told “fix this”

The game lacks the story structure to show we are actually under a defined mission with someone guiding us.
Some commander we are in WoD, doing all the errands while the NPCs chill at the fort,

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No and that’s quite a silly claim to make, honestly.

And not for the reasons you claim, but rather because of stuff that happened beforehand…

Yeah, speaking of an echochamber.

Says you? That’s rich.

It’s recovering; albeit slowly.
Again; because of the damage previously done by the last 2 expansions and the real life drama within Blizzard.

In your opinion. That’s far from a fact.

They have been building towards it with their story and lore.
They could’ve done something completely different to keep that conflict intact. But they didn’t. What I want has nothing to do with it: It’s about logic and consequences.

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Your worried about the 4th wars ending, it was all blamed on Sylvia.

The endings you should be worried about are legions and Shadowlands.

We still have a sword stuck out of silllyface and the scourge running rampant in Northrend without a lich king to control them.

Sylvia being allowed to live and not answer for her crimes was a kick to the preverbiable balls but it was a conclusion. The others wernt…

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The sword is one thing, but how does mindless scourge manage to still be hard to put down? I mean they are not Zerg to have a reproductive advantage

You should’ve seen these forums the first month if Dragonflight then. A handful of recognised posters saying the game is good is no indication that the expansion is received well for the majority of the players. Not to mention that the amount of interaction on the forums has severely dropped.

Yes, Shadowlands hurt the franchise, but I don’t think Dragonflight is its saving grace.
Don’t get me wrong, the idea of the story is decent, but the way it’s portrayed, written, is another story. I’ve seen countless amount of people on the US forums state and agree that they skip the voicelines and cinematics because it’s too childish and obnoxious.

Really so you don’t see the amount of gold you’re being paid every quest you complete? Lmao.

I never said it’s portrayed good but you’re still a conscript for the Horde or the Alliance.

Yeah that event where they changed women into bowls of fruit did also contribute to that, I agree.

That’s what you are clearly doing here though?

That’s not what the anecdotal evidence and the reported low participation numbers say.

Not really my opinion when its seen everywhere.

They wrote the ingame quests, dialogue and 90% of the story in the last two years, what a build up.

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It is debatable if that is a large amount of gold thanks to the inflation.
But it is just the mission by mission pay of a mercenary. Not the wage of a sworn permanent member.
The covenant did more to make us swear to their cause than A/H did and that says something

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It’s more of the laziness of the thing. Instead of making Bolvar matter and reclaim the throne they still have him stood in oribos with his finger inserted up his butt. He was such a powerful and meaningful character with an important purpose and they just left him stood there. They had baine sat in a corner crying all xpac.

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Conscript* not a mercenary.

I think you don’t know what the definition of a conscript is.

Conscripts are at least issued a uniform and not having to earn gear piece by piece.

I have been a conscript IRL as part of compulsory service.

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You gotta earn it!

But seriously tho, still surprised people don’t realise we’re conscripts. Yeah, you can be a conscript, an agent working together with other forces. That doesn’t mean that you’re in service to these other forces first and utmost, you’re still going to report back or return to your faction.

You people that want to get rid of factions don’t realise how integrated they are in the expansions and the story lol.

Get a grip!

And?

I did not had to “earn” gear
I had to do as I told and stay where I was told and get paid for it 2 euros a week (the rest was retained for our upkeep).
Not roam around and get earn piece by piece of my uniform.

That is the difference between conscription and freelance mercenary work.

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Mate, this is a videogame.

It’s a videogame.

You’re not a mercenary, you’re a conscript for your faction.
If you’re a mercenary, then you should be able to denounce the faction and walk straight into Orgrimmar, right?

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That is just gameplay limitation imposed by the developers to solicit faction change revenue.
And a videogame can still fail to maintain suspension of disbelief

Oh so they’re spending all this time writing this and implementing it into the game just to solicit faction change revenue, despite it not being a thing until WotLK AND not even added in Classic? Are you being for real right now? Not because there are people that might enjoy it and find it interesting?

Maybe to you, and despite you not liking that you have to earn gear, doesn’t change that you’re still a conscript.