Don’t worry, High Chieftain. I will convince some Horde counterpart - maybe Nathanos - to give you the illusion of talking to you. You’ll talk to him about stuff that regards the Horde and you wanting it back in a slight tantrum and then Nathanos becomes convinced. He’ll leave, but keep the door open.
We’ll call it…
“Old S-… Young Leader.”
A Prelate that bought his kid a rattle toy of a Nigh Elf head…would probably be fine with it.
And Blood Knights, if Lorash mindset is a thing, wouldn’t have many qualms either.
Conceding on Prelate, because they are not paladins in the traditional sense. They are holy warriors of their Loa.
Are you denying the Chronicles here? The Chronicles state that the blood knights have returned to the old ways of light worship and rekindled a positive relationship with the Light.
Lorash’s mindset was a thing back in Burning Crusade. For it to work, you need to ignore literally everything since.
By the way, last time I checked, Lorash was not a paladin.
Her first responsibility is being the commander in charge when a battle happens outside of Quel’thalas. But light devotation or not, it is the story blizzard wants to tell. You can call it bad writing if you want, but we actual have logical exlplanations while she just follows orders here.
The only neutral Paaldin ever actually worth his salt. Never there been a greater human hero 
Is Liadrin a classical Paladin that knows about the three virtues or is she faithful because it feels good? Ask yourself.
Extra: If you want to look for Darkhan 2.0, I would first take a sip at Halduron instead. I have a funny feeling, that he would deny the orders of Lor’themar since the Rise of the Zandalari patch happened.
Dude. Blood elves picked Light Worshiping up from humans. With its entire package. And yes, I will call the current situation bad writing.
That doesn’t mean the organisations and people that follow said doctrines have different goals or mindsets.
Lorash standpoint isn’t some old-fashioned point of view. We had snippets of this back in Suramar with how Liadrin viewed Night elves.
Would any average Blood elf condone or rejoice with Teldrassil? Don’t know.
But given past grievances (stuff that we know for sure hasn’t been forgotten nor forgiven), it’s not far fetched to assume that they could be willing to stick with Sylvanas regardless of Teldrassil or the moral qualms they might have had with her actions.
Light is an instrument that works on faith. Blood elves just need to feel like they are doing the right thing for them/their people in order to for it to work.
And that’s contingent to personal motives that might not have to do with what’s ‘Objectively Moral’.
A statement which basically doesn’t say anything of substance.
Yeah, those were really nice. Horde defense of those moments was that Liadrin is probably unaware of the history her own people. Further more, there’s a world of difference between not liking someone and clapping at someone burning.
Well, unless they are psychopaths, the answer is probably not.
Some more pro-waifu babbling.
Because when you call burning civilians a bad thing, that is only subjective moral.
Horde has no paladins, only humans and dwarves are paladins. The others are just “paladins” for game-play reasons. One of the things paladins are sworn to do is fighting against the vile evil of the greenskins, which they obviously can’t do if they are Horde.
As Zarao said why would trolls care? Or why would some tauren tribes (Grimtotem, Stonespire for example) care?
Horde shamans used fire elementals to spread the fire faster and burn even more people at Teldrassil. Helping Gallywix isn’t that far fetched.
Horde leaders are cowards, that was established back in MoP.
All in all, this thread just screams “Alliance player concerned about well-being of wittle greenskin babies :(”. The Horde was always like this, don’t let anyone fool you, they just lacked the means for bigger destruction, which they gained in Cata and, well, look what has happened since.
So Draenei aren’t true paladins for you either? Or High Elves?
Oh joy, what a nice thread.
See, most of the questions asked could be answered simply because people willing to forgo their beliefs to make an enemy suffer is not that far fetched.
Thing is though, even the most Alliance hating pro conquest Horde should have a problem with the Forsaken’s method of warfare, as in burning and blighting usable land and resources while leaving it worthless for anyone to use.
Nothing of substance? Paladins can do evil. Paladins can use the light for bad stuff.
Having Blood elves delve into the paladin ways from a different angle is irrelevant to the usage they are giving said powers. They can be drawing their powers from a different source or obtaining them in a different way.
If their goals remain the same, why is that relevant?
And if the ones indoctrinated by her share her same skewed point of view, then that’s rather irrelevant to know whether they’d support Sylvanas or not.
If they feel as wronged as to think the Night elves deserved that, that doesn’t mean they are being psychopaths.
Zandalari aren’t, and they’d probably be fine with it, as they suffered similar persecution and extermination at the Night elf hands.
Ps: The other two replies are the usual argumental fallacies, so won’t bother.
No they are vindicators. Completely different and much older culture. They don’t use swords and avatars of holy light, but crystallic hammers and naaru powers.
They don’t exist anymore. And if blood elves are any indication, let’s just remember that “paladin” who sent you to defile Uther’s Tomb because he was butt-hurt. They are not made out of the stuff human and dwarven paladins are.
Always remember, all Trolls have the best motivation of them all to be anti Night Elf, since they are the reason trolls lost almost everything.
Vague general points which fail to address any issue. Paladins which are evil are not part of the playable factions. Paladins which are evil exist as mobs.
Because they do not.
Liadrin is now indoctrinated? This is really growing nice.
So, I need to feel joy and justification because the descendants of someone who has maybe done me an injustice ten generations ago are now burning in flames.
1.Thoradin burned entire regiments of his own troops. (Source still owed)
2.Forsaken are the bulk of Lordaeron’s pre-Scourge population. (remember your proof for it? I will link it, I swear to god)
3. Wowpedia is unreliable and can be edited, but I really can’t do it now because:
a)they won’t let me, proving my argument false.
b) they will correct it after, once again proving my argument false.
4. Forsaken lost every single settlement in Tirisfal (a monodramatic recital)
You have some cheek to speak of argument fallacies, brother. You are luxuriating in them.
Contingent to obvious moral boundaries, but yeah.
Quite laxer than the rest.
Which are basically entities of Light?
But I get your point, and I also agree with you. The Horde has no Paladins, it has Prelates (soon!), Sunwalkers, and Blood Knights. It does no justice for their race to call them “Paladins”, and it does no justice to the actual Paladins either. It’s just gameplay stuff.
Humans managed to use light completely fine without some sci-fi outer space wind-chimes floating around brain-washing everything. 
I’m still of the opinion that naaru = the light is one of the worst things that ever happened to human lore.
Well at least this one should be true. Deathknell and the Bulwark probally only still exist due to Blizzard being lazy. But you are right on the rest.
Pretty much everyone who was responsible back 10k years in the past is still alive. That’s the perfect fuel for grudges.
sigh That’s not my point.
Not really, no.