Hi there!
I know about the meta to get to honored first by dungeon grinding before questing. But i want to do questing and some dungeons in between. Now i keep stressing about it, that im going to be in big trouble with reps later if i do. Could someone explain what is the fallout of this? Like will i be able to catch up on rep at 70 and how? how long it may take?
Just trying to understand this better to make a decision. Thanks!
You won’t be in any trouble. Don’t worry. Back in the day i leveled only normally (questing / a bit of grinding). Got to raid everything and do all attunement with no issues.
The fact is heroic dungeons will be really important end game content unless you are in a super busy active raiding guild and a caster (because BiS gear until t6 is crafted gear) but badge gear is pretty good. You do need mats from heroics as well for the crafted gear though.
Attunement requirement will be nerfed from revered to honored at some point if i remember correctly. No need to rush.
Disclaimer: IF you are in a sweatlords / tryhard guild with a GM pushing you and a raid spot, then yes you should grind dungeons honored before questing in p1. That or leave the guild asap.
This is min max nonsense. The kind of garbage youtubers come up with to fill their videos with.
Truth is, unless you have Naxx gear, it’s way better to quest first (for the gear upgrades) and then farm dungeons. Going straight into dungeon farming with crap gear is idiotic.
Play the game however you find fun. Following youtube min max guidelines will kill the enjoyment for most ppl.
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You can earn the rep easily, it just takes longer for two reasons.
You can earn up to Revered in the “70 normal” dungeons and Exalted in heroics.
The main point about dungeon grinding is that there are way too many players for way too few layers. At Friday 7am there are more players than NPCs at critical questing choke points. About 20 players in Honor Hold inn alone.
This could get awkward on a PvP server, when you have nothing to do, you’ll start a war.
I mean, it might be a problem with Mirage Raceway specifically, having an inappropriately low number of layers (2 instead of 6).
Up until now I got 20% past level 60 with questing (and +75% with some Ramparts).
Question is, what’s your goal. If you want to quest, it’s probably best to raise all your alts and pretend Outland doesn’t exist except to suck all players away from previously overcontested 50+ Classic zones. If you want to grow, I recommend finding a dungeon group. It could be a wee better playing 2am-6am but…
ps.: Me posting an essay at 8am instead of playing is hard proof, lol.
Everyone on server put You on ignore and You will get kicked from guild.
Game is about chores we don’t have time for fun.
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We had atleast 10 layers at launch on mirage actually we were just that many
Man just play the game.
You’ll get reps up fast either way, doesn’t matter if you push honored before quests so you can hit revered with them or if you just level to 70 and do few normal runs for revered then.
Half the fun is getting to 70, some people who try to minmax will burn themselves out and rob themselves of leveling experience, and get bored at 70.
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The fallout is that you’ll have to run things like Shattered Halls/Steamvaults multiple times (3-6 or so) at 70 to make up the reputation necessary to get to revered (so you can get the keys in order to run heroic dungeons). I feel a normal questing->run through dungeons once or twice approach should get you into honoured with most of the factions (although I have no proof).
So its less efficient - but not necesarilly apocalyptic.
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Big tip…. Play the game how you want to experience it, stressing over something you can do while levelling or at 70 is nothing to stress about! Either way you still need to dung spam if you want the rep. I’m dung spamming early while I still have the motivation for it.
A lot of people are playing tbc so groups while levelling or at 70 won’t be an issue
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Meh, my guild is very friendly and there is no pressure to get the rep done immediately… and yet msot people are approaching 70, with much of the faction grind done. I personally have barely started… but considering packing it in altogether. By the time I’m done, I will jsut be a weight
I don’t think that a person with the mindset you seem to have would be a weight, unless you’re in a very competitive guild. It’s all about communication, and setting our goals realistically. There are always late levelers, newcomers etc, and a non-min-maxer guild would definitely help those players advance.
This meta slave mentality is really unbelievable…
Stop being mindless sheeps, people.
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Questing to 70 is better imo.
Put it this way. At 70 you have to grind dungeons for gear anyway. The difference between normal lvl 70 dungeons and heroic lvl 70 dungeons is very little. You have the same items dropping with the exception of last boss.
I personally don’t like to quest after I dinged 70 so to me this is a better option.
Firstly, it is more tiresome to farm low dungeons for rep at 70 than at the apt level, because at least you get some xp and maybe gear (and god forbid, a challenge) out of it at low level. Plus you can avoid the open world crowds. At 70 you will want to be doing other things than pure rep grinds in normal dungeons. Like jumping almost straight into hcs.
And finally, the more quests you save till 70, the more gold you will have access to, because the xp earned from quests is converted to gold at max level.
Levelling by questing is what ur supposed to do its how game was originaly designed.
ppl who dungeon boost are just meta slaves who want to rush. so theres no fallout from levelling by questing and save that maybe you wont do it as fast as the zoomers who dungeon grind all day.
if u want to get rep u can do it after u hit level cap by running heroic versions. again only reason ppl want to get rep early I guess is for crafting patterns that u can only get with high rep but once again they’re just min/maxing. u dont need top level drums or crafted gear to run normals or do world quests
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This will be the correct answer in a month or two.
Right now the overpopulation is so severe that the best approach is to exit the world and grind dungeons.
It doesn’t have to be Ramparts, you can go and play some Stratholme and stuff. (Well, and do 55-60 quests if you didn’t.) The aggressive XP dropoff was introduced around Cata/MoP.
From 62 onwards you can even rotate between dungeons conveniently.
Yes, you can level in Outland - killing boars.
… Or I got megastuck on a megafail quest, after which all is well. Zeth’gor Insigniae.
Thanks for all the responses. Made things much more clear.
I dont care about rushing to 70 and the main reason i asked i was worried i would need to grind rep trough dailies for like a month to get access to heroics. Good to know that some runs at 70 will get me there. Main questions was about how and how long it would be to make up for the lost rep, some people took it way too far in other direction.
This, 100%. I couldn’t agree more.
Exactly the same situation on Zandalar Tribe - 2 layers only and questing is not efficient at all, but a waste of time.
Well, you say that… but it’s kinda hard doing the same quests with low drop rates with around 10-15 others in the same area.
Basically, you can do your dungeon grinding now when everyone does it, or later when much less people and hardly any tanks do it. You can do all quests and then grind 8 level 70 dungeons, or you can grind 10 leveling dungeons to honored and then do quests at your own pace.
It comes down to economy of scale basically. Do it when everyone does it.
I just hit 64 yesterday for example, and I have done no quests in Outland. Not even the first one, I mounted up and ran to BF.
As a side bonus, if you do all the quests at 70, it nets you over 5000 gold in just the XP to gold conversion. Win-win.