What ilvl for Vengeance to go M+?

[Brigael-tarren-mill]

As a tank, I admit I found the few M0s I did very hard, even after watching guides ( from Quazzi Wow). Good thing I did them in a community, since the newer dungeons have become fairly hard compared to the previous ones (imo).

Now I am not saying, please don’t do that, I love hard content so it’s good, but doing pugs seems to become more and more not a thing to do . After 1 wipe, they go, blame either healer or tank.

Secondly, is there an addon that shows how much damage you take and which skill per fight ? So, like Details! Let’s say I do the first boss of Stone Vault,I want to know how much damage I take.

[Totemtoez-aegwynn]

it depends on your skill honestly.

You can do m+3 with 570 ilvl.
dont expect to get invited or anything, but you could easily do it…

if you want to pug and expect invited for low keys that wont give you any upgrades, expect to be ilvl 600+

[Brigael-tarren-mill]

SKill is fine, not a pro, but I can’t carry a bad group tbh.

I did SV a few times, not a single healer that gave me Stone Shield!

[Totemtoez-aegwynn]

most healers dont know that they have to dispel it later. it is not very clear if you dont read the text before actually

but it probably will one shot you on +7 or something if they healer does it wrong.
There are some nasty overlaps for the healer and most tanks are also not helping the healer…
you can soak one pillar as the tank immediately when it spawns and life for healer will be much better