What is the fire magic that warlocks use?

So, as I’ve understood it, a warlock doesn’t use arcane magic at all since fel and arcane are opposites, and they obviously use shadow and fel magic. But since destruction has a lot of fire abilities is it some form of twisted fel magic looked like fire and not real fire?

Pretty sure it’s Fel but I’m not a warlock expert.

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It looks to be hellfire. The same red flame Sargeras/Mythic Gul’dan have going. The jury’s still out on what hellfire actually is.

In the green fire questline we see destro warlocks tap into Deathwing’s molten fury and stealing the fires of Ragnaros to fuel their flames, but in Last Guardian we see an orc warlock create hellfire by cutting his palm and using blood magic as a source for it.

I personally like the Last Guardian depiction of it, though I’m obviously biased because I RP a blood mage I really love the novel + it feels more thematic to the warlock vibe over “heehee we stole it from Firelands ((which is what normal mages already do anyway, read Last Guardian + Tides of War, don’t @ me))”

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It can be a lot of things. Warlocks are infamous for embracing destructive and dangerous magical energies. The most common approach seem to be fel energy, but warlocks have also unlocked the secrets of the Firelands like Telaryn mentioned, which indicates that they can call up fire from the elemental plane itself, embracing the destructive will of fire elementals. Some Warlocks are fire mages that have gone off the deep end, so they would perhaps still be drawing from the arcane but in dangerous amounts. There is a lot of wiggle room.

The point is that warlocks are not too picky with how they create fire as long as it’s powerful.

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Using fire from the Firelands seems pretty cool for a Dark Iron. I’m glad I have learned this.

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being a warlock does not equate to using Fel, necessarily. Arcane isn’t out of the question for a good few of them

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Thanks for the replies :slightly_smiling_face: not that clear it seems but I also like the different possibilities, I like the idea of drawing power from fire lands :smirk: can you still do the green fire quest?
But if you use Ragnaros fire in the quest, does that mean hellfire can be either green or orange?

Yes! You just have to fetch the book for it from the AH, or tirelessly grind it whatever the normal way is.

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It comes down to the concept you want to do. Someone making hellfire with blood magic is gucci while a Dark Iron enslaving fire back also has a certain feeling of irony to it which I appreciate.

You can if you get the quest item that starts the story!

It’s not so much used in the quest itself as much as it is written in Jubeka’s Journal detailing the last Black Harvest council meeting where the group of 6 warlocks (2 per specialisation) split up to steal new sources of magic to distribute between their warlock communities.

In the quest itself you gain green fire by draining fel energy from Kanrethad, corrupting your own flame.

My take would be that fire enslaved from Firelands is obviously not Hellfire, but fire created by blood magic is.

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I thought you couldn’t use arcane while using fel thinking of demon hunters using arcane tattoos to counter the fel :hushed: (and maybe it’s of gameplay purposes but seeing how mage and lock have such different abilities)

This is true, but also not every warlock = fel. Warlock nowadays is just a blanket term for “power hungry spellcaster wielding whatever power they can get their hands on”

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Aah get it! Suddenly warlock feels more versatile and even more interesting :relaxed:

Thanks all for the help :pray:

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we got you fam :muscle:

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While it’s true Arcane and Fel are opposites, there’s nothing concrete to suggest you outright can’t wield both. Fel used to just be a more “corrupt” version of Arcane before it became its own thing and plenty of mages have become warlocks, so there’s no reason to believe they’d become unable to use Arcane if they still wanted to (at least not immediately). If anything, the fact demon hunters use Arcane runes to keep their powers in check suggests the two can co-exist in some way.

It seems to be more a question of why you’d want to when you’ve already decided to start wielding Fel magic.

EDIT: To add to that, I basically agree with what Telaryn wrote in his first post. I like the idea that the red fire isn’t just standard Fel, as it makes the change to green all that more impactful (you’re now wielding raw Fel etc etc). Whether the red fire is caused by blood magic, taken from the Firelands or something else is still unknown.

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Somewhat headcanon based on how destruction warlocks work in-game, I like to imagine that Warlock fire magic burns off pieces of its target’s soul, which the warlock then absorbs. Once they have enough of that energy, they twist it into pure Chaos magic - uncontained Fel magic - and fire that.

Realistically it is likely to be a combination of Fire and Chaos magic, as opposed to a mage’s Fire and Arcane, more controlled burn.

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Yep, done it twice recently. It requires the Sealed Tome of the Lost Legion, which can be dropped from the Isle of Thunder (very rare), or bought from the AH for a considerable sum.
You’ll need to be level 90 I believe in order to use it, and even then, the final boss can be incredibly difficult. Like, holy crap difficult.

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There is currently no canon material that even suggests Warlocks are limited to just one school of magic. Certain spells combine various schools together. Most people will assume (and try to ‘inform you’) that Warlocks are limited to Fel and Demons, but this is Imp poo.

The title ‘Warlock’ is mostly used as a blanket title for anyone outside what is considered acceptable magics, unless they dedicate themselves to a singular type, like Necromancers.

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As others have mentioned, warlocks are actually a much more diverse bunch in terms of their power sources than represented by the mechanics of the class.

In general terms however, warlocks use Fel magic to conjure other forms of “magic”, with the added effect of having that “magic” be “tainted” or “influenced” by the Fel’s raw chaotic nature. Fel magic is by defintion the “Chaos magic” of World of Warcraft. So in the terms of the fire conjured by Fel magic, it is deemed “hellfire”, which is similar to the fire conjured by mages using the Arcane but this one is rather tainted by the Fel’s chaotic nature. Thus, it is more volatile, much more uncontrollable but much more destructive.

Arcane fire is like a flamethrower, inherently dangerous but if kept under control by a steady and experienced individual it can be quite effective.

Hellfire, or Fel conjured fire is like throwing molotov cocktails. The warlock could get burned at the slightest mishap.

As a bonus on info, Warlocks also use Fel magic to conjure shadow.

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Thanks for all the new replies, and for info on the green quest, all very helpful :pray:

I like to view magic types in WoW as different mediums for obtaining similar effects. To that extent, the regular warlock fire is just… fire, achieved through sorcery warlocks utilize.

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