i just find dh, dk, hunters, rogue and ret pala and some warrior wait 20 to 40 minutes cue to get destroyed by this overtuned class and they can´t balance this? what is the point to play caster when “meles” and hunters are easy to play, have same or more dps, better armor, more hp, better defensives and inmunities, some doing crazy rang hits with no cast, can´t be interrupted but they can interrupt casters with no cd and have same or better mobility then casters
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Ret pala is a caster!
Not mage
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They really should pull back on the range in which rets can do damage. Or significantly reduce the damage of their abilities when used from range.
I really do love their rework from DF though.
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even mage with 3 blinks can´t even play aginst that classes rogue and dh have infinite mobility and cc the level of pressure they have is impressive and dk with grips and interrupts with no cd no matter how many blinks you have they always on you in 0´5 sec and ret is rang no caster xD noone can kit this class now
Bad mages cant. Good mages are untouchable
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Although probably true, you have to play far far far better as mage than ret. The average ret will dunk on the average mage. Ret is just very good at getting results even when you play like a donkey.
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maybe on a duel but good mage vs good dh, dk or rogue are crap nowdays, hunters and ret don´t even need to be good to deal with mage
Yeah hopefully ret gets completely gutted
Not true mage is completely immortal and does insane damwge
was so nerfed mage was so much better in df now just fire is good and still feel weak with one dispelleable block and nerfed barriers+alter just try when you have your block, blink and trinket on cd you´re done
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how delusional you are ? go see a doctor
How many of these posts are you gonna make? Just play ret paladin or BM hunter. Mage is not for you.
i´m not a meta slave
There is no point.
Learn to play 3 roles.
I play survi atm above 2k its really fun, lot of ability to counter, and survive, anytime can swap ranged from melee, lot of cc or trap to turn off enemy healer, a bit hard to peel partners, but its fun.
I play prev season affli, i was a punchbag, but it was fun. Now its not as good as before but i like it.
With healer I was CASTER MW, i hate fw so i dont play mw now. I swapped to R shaman and i love it.
You have to pick some classes and roles you like and change aometimes you can learn from that how to handle or counter. You will know weak points, and you will face higher rated classes where you find out they how to handle the melee lobby (when you are a caster)
This is why wow pvp is still awesome even if the burst window os hard.
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i try other class but i just enjoy mage i like hard games but not imposible games
I know that feeling. When i started to play affli about 2-3 years ago, It was ultra Hard (with Deathbolt dot) was oneshot ppl and cannot be dispelled 
All the time I just focused on survive, and waiting for the right moment when I can full dot ppl (who has no defense) and go for Deathbolt
Check some top ranked players from your class (as caster I recommend Supatease, or Jazgg videos) you will see its not impossible.
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I got kited as warrior BY a warlock tonight.
I mean I won in the end but the guy had more mobility than mage.
The devs are bad at their job, sure but they are bad in a way that makes the game feel bad too.
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Okey, well there is a lot helpful dudes here that can try help if you show them the clip. Yt is also full of guides and internet is full warrior streamers as its literally one of the most played specs after retri.
Are you saying warlock has more mobility than a mage, I dont have the energy to even begin unpacking that statement to list everything from mage but I’ll just say thats not correct. I really would suggest watch some clips about arena mate.
“warlock kited me better than mage”
Which takes more skill to do if it appeared that way
“I won in the end”
whines about balance
Kek
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Mage is meta for the past 18 years
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sure check the meta now frost is at least in all brackets :V
and since I started i just played mage and I chose it without knowing anything about meta, and I still play it even though it’s terrible, no matter how much the mage haters insist on saying is s tier numbers are there