Nobody cares about making a group for random BGs, why would we go to the bother of making a group and then queue for honour when we could use the same group to farm conquest?
Alliance has slightly higher sustained damage but horde has higher burst damage. Burst wins games.
I see preamdes from firemaw all the time.
No you don’t. Most Alliance PVPers are on Firemaw so every team you face will have plenty of them on the team. There is no reason to bother organising a group just to farm honour when that same group can farm the much more valuable conquest (even by queuing up and afking).
Yes I do. I’ll start taking screenshots. Plus you Alliance Firemaw players group up with Russians too. You can’t seem to win without a premade or grouping up with Russians.
Lol 10/10 you had me going 
Human:
Trinket 1 = Passive
Trinket 2 = Active
Racial = CC Break
Orc:
Trinket 1 = Passive/Active
Trinket 2 = CC break
Racial = On use “Trinket”
BUT ALSO
Has added benefit of Stun Reduction.
Conclusion: Orc is better.
i wonder why orc is not dominating 2s and 3s ladder then. especially orc hunter + rogue.
i guess all these human rerollers just did it for the challenge.
And give up the free restealth from Night Elf? I thought my ragebait was good.
PvP on use damage trinket has more damage than orc racial even in the first season and CD is x2 shorter.
Human is best for every class and spec that can be human and that is bad for the game. It caused this massive faction imbalance and killed of horde pvp. The real reason you try argue against it is you don’t want your human to get nerfed.
There’s three times as many Horde players on PvP servers tho
If you keep saying that more people will believe it.
Shadowmelt and orc racial is even with the human racial, but the problem is that once a faction gets like idk 60% of the player base 25% will follow pretty soon and the remaining 15% will complain on the forums but 85% will not even care.
Orc and night elf are strong, just not on humans level for pvp. That’s the problem, one race is far superior. Nerfing humans might not bring balance but is a good move.
Every pvper already takes that trinket! You can’t use two as they’d share a cooldown so a human takes the on use trinket and the random proc trinket. Everyone else takes the on use trinket and the cc breaker trinket. Don’t compare the on use trinket to the orc racial, you can only compare the random proc trinket to the orc racial. Humans can’t even take pve trinkets in mop because the ilvl gets squished in PvP and the lack of power/resilience means they’re inferior.
If blizzard let us choose our racials I’d gladly take the orc ones over the human ones for my rogue. People die in stunlocks (especially mid season onwards in mop when you’ll start seeing some combat rogues in PvP, blowing up melee with revealing strike stuns*) so every second I can take off a stun is a big help.
*Inb4 someone comes along and says “duh all rogues must play sub because you need shadow step”
No, plenty of specs chooses proc trinket as well. It also depends on the bracket and comps etc. However, humans get both of these op trinkets so I don’t get your argument. Having both of them is better than any other racial, there is no argument in this.
Which two trinkets would you take if your main was human?
I take proc pvp dmg trinket and on use pvp dmg trinket… duh. Getting hard not to insult you at this point tbh.
/golfclap, that’s exactly what I said you’d be taking. As an orc I’d take cc breaker trinket and on use pvp dmg trinket, meaning we don’t consider the on use trinket SINCE WE BOTH HAVE IT.
You get: 944 pvp power and a random proc giving 3603 attack power
I get: 1021 crit, 398 pvp power, 10% stun reduction AND my on use racial that gives 4514 attack power.
You have slightly higher sustained damage, I have better burst and 10% stun reduction (and extra pet damage for hunters/locks). Your weaker proc trinket will trigger twice, but it’s unpredictable so isn’t as good as my on-use racial I can use at the exact same time as my on-use trinket.
Human was the best race back when you could take the on-use PVP trinket and an overpowered PVE trinket (and even stronger when we could abuse the PVE trinket and also have improved stealth detection) but that’s not the case in MoP.
Orcs dont’ have on use trinket, they have racial thats is more than x2 worse… these mental gymnastics on trying to say that human is not the most op race for pvp is getting hilarious.
Wtf orcs have 2 trinket slots, so they take the on-use PvP trinket and the cc breaker trinket.
I had no idea we had so many Glads on these forums.
The numbers being shown here will literally make zero difference to your progress unless you are in the top 1% of pvpers.
Its just copium from average players that think the reason they are losing is due to racials and not a lack of skill and knowledge from their side.
And the reason everyone is playing human is because these rerollers are deluded enough to believe that having an OP racial will somehow boost their rating.
Spoiler. It wont.