I think devs are looking at things through a more… logical and dry perspective, and players want a more chaotic and emotional game.
Take tiersets. Preach said he heard about Blizz talking about domination gear as “essentially being tierset”. If you take a look at it from the dry, logical, functional perspective - yes. They are pieces of gear you collect from raids and the more you collect, the stronger you become.
From an emotional perspective - no. Absolutely not. Tiersets are about your character getting personality, you’d roll an alt just to get the tierset for a specific class. You want to see “ooh what will the rogue tierset look like in the next patch”.
The WoW dev team is designing function. It’s not designing emotion. It’s not designing sense.
It reminds me of Marvel vs Capcom 3, where Disney banned Capcom from including X-Men characters, because at the time, Disney did not own the movie rights to them. The devs tried playing around it… but the players simply wanted Magneto. They didn’t want a character that’s functionally the same, they just wanted Magneto. Same thing here - we just want tiersets. We just want every season to feel different. We just want a simple game that we look forward to playing.
Whoever is in charge to lead the devs team should quit right now.
Is not possible that someone who is clearly NOT playing the game is leading a huge title like WOW.
If we replace him with a guy from the forum we could fix the game in 1 month.
But dude I’m not their friend I’m customer. I expect quality game and I don’t care if they are happy or not. That’s how customer->provider relationship works.
If you go to restaurant and order medium steak but get rare because chef thinks raw is better you are not happy and you complain. There is no situation that chef comes to you and says he has a bad day but he makes a new steak. That’s what I’m doing here.
With Path of Exile the same drama happens on Twitch where some (not many) streamers complaining about the content. And the path od Exile engines the way simplest and useful (modern) then wow engine, that makes GGG developers address user requests faster. And since the game is focusing on reduced set of mechanics it is simpler to satisfy the auditory. The same is for BDO, Lost Ark, Lineage 2 and other MMOs focusing to cover the reduced set of in game activities. WoW tries to address all the requests from users at once.
If this is the thing then it means they are doing something wrong as the way market works is simple. You have to satisfy your audience not your own ego because devs are not the source of income but players. It’s basically against basic rules of economy.
No objections here. Agree with you. Still you named only one responsible person - the chief. I hope you`re not asking to fire everyone and close the restraunt because of the one bad steak?
There’s truth and there’s a lie my friend… and if anyone want to support Blizzard for pandemy issue… ok… if someone want to support blizz for women rights and sexual harrasment…ok … if someone want to support blizzard just for they are blizzard … ok… but those things are far away from what Customer want… then maybe as they said… you ppl are the problem I’m not paying them… im payin for product… and this product is making money for company it means that company got economy… and economy runs company and company employs just so economy can pay them… and thats no concern of mine or any customer… and there shouldn’t be any customer who give a damn about how women rights and sexual harrasment is affecting company… customer only cares about product which he’s paying for… do you need to write something else to understand ? then here you go… if they have problem like this… they should shut down servers because right now they will start losing everything or… they can just do work as they claim are passionate about…
Because it’s not one person. They are taking decisions together what ex-devs confirmed. It’s whole team 2 (WoW dev team) responsible for this mess.
As an example I can give BFA considered horrible expansion. The biggest problem of it were borrowed powers. What is Blizzard doing? Adding new borrowed powers in SL.
People say that Covenants will fail and won’t be balanced. Blizzard promises to balance them. They are unbalanced…
It’s never ending story. I don’t blame one person I blame the team as WoW is the result of their work.
No, but chef is asked to cook according to customer’s request instead of cooking another raw steak.
Blizzard is doing the same things over and over again expecting different results.
They got A4 pages of feedback about Azerite Armors that they are trash and nobody likes them - ignored. Same for covenants - still went all-in with them. Before 9.1 people said shards are broken and unbalanced. Did anyone even bother? They were released in the worst state possible.
As I said their pride lost them in a long run. I’m actually happy to see this whole situation happening (players exodus for FF XIV) as everyone has his patience limit. They can’t ignore and scam us forever promising more alt friendly expansion and delivering this.
But the ggg developers are playing their game even chris wilson
knows what is happening and that is a main GUY
do you understand the difference?
when your developing team is doing their JOB right
there is gonna be feedback and people quiting over changes
but the overall opinion on them is that
people love them because they listen and talk with them
You mean complicated things like add vendor blizzard pls? it worked?
because adding a vendor was like 5 years in development
ye sure the engine is the problem here
I’m not gonna try to convince you
how can i say this
if everything was like you are saying that devs are passionate and they love what they do
clearly more people will be playing their game right?
don’t blame playerbase for a toxic behavior towards devs when people put a lot of time into a feedback and the feedback is applied into the game after a year of expansion.
Also their stance against sexual harassment is a hypocrisy. Many people admit they knew that Alex Afraisabi abuses and it happened in their team. He was fired a year ago and company tried to hide it. They worked for over a year there doing nothing about it and approving the fact his NPCs were still in the game. Now they are doing a protest stopping development of WoW expecting us to support them. Their egos are enormous.
In fact they are the most toxic in our relation.
Scamming your customer works for a period of time. At one moment customer will be tired of it. That’s why all these scamming movie producers will also lose their customers soon. Imagine advertising Masters of the Universe with He-man and then there is no He-man in the show. Product has to please it’s audience - provider cannot pretend he knows better or just make a product based on an agenda. People wanted Master of the Universe for He-man so they want He-man not Teela.
You guys not trying to negotiate and co-create value (google it what it means, value co-creation). You`re just killing the WoW here by feeding your ego.
No one besides him got punished that hard for the same thing. Also it happened 2 min. after it happened. He didn’t get redemption chance.
Also there is 2nd thing with him. He got banned from casting Hearthstone for using word “rape”. Apparently it wasn’t a problem for WoW devs to make rape jokes at work.
then maybe as they said… you ppl are the problem 