We’ve all complained about it, we’ve all done it too.
I’m not interested in debating how toxic the dungeons are at the moment or how to fight toxicity.
I’m interested in knowing the source.
Hoping for an open discussion where everyone can speak their minds free of judgement just this once.
Frustration, probably.
People play this game for many different reasons.
And if things don’t go their way, they get frustrated.
Some lash out, others move on.
Nothing and everything ??
People and basically Human beings have emotions , and those emotions play a huge part in everyday reaction.
Don’t bother , move along and you will see the changes… The more you react the more you become obsess .
yea depends on reactions to things as well.
if you make a joke about a death, comes over different to “WHAT ARE YOU DOING BRO”
people feed off other interactions etc and some people… just hate
It’s comes with maturity not age. Mature people get on with their life. Immature people rage and get toxic.
Thus is life, compounded by social media. Everyone thinks they’re owed something
The toxicity IMHO comes from one simple place:
People forget that none of this matters, it’s a game, not a raise they were declined.
These are all very interesting.
Would you agree that it mostly comes from lack of emotional intelligence?
And yet, we have all known frustration in the game. The lack of time to play and wanting to reach our goals within the small time window we do play may lead to frustration, which requires emotional intelliegence to overcome.
What triggers? Multiple causes. It can be having 2 completely incompatible people playing together - One is a go go go, 3 chest aaaaa while the other is a lets take it nice and safe. Thats right there is pretty much an explosive cocktail waiting for that 1 spark to blow up.
Other times it can be a defensive mechanism being the cause of a wipe or fail but trying to redirect to another’s small or even no mistakes. Like the tank pulled an extra dragon in GB and I got blamed for it cause of “no kicks” wait whut?
What makes it to react? A simple reaction to a provocation. Also staying silent, while its a sign of a wise man in many cases, in pug scenario = being silent meaning you accept your guilt. So rather yell back before people get the wrong idea.
What makes me say or do things I do? For the last 2-3 years I ve never spoken in pugs. Maybe a response to somebody’s hi or bye. Its not worth it. Try pointing out somebody is not kicking = Omgez elitist toxec!!.
While in communities or with friends, we are usually loling around on discord and on wipes we just have a good laugh about our clumsiness and carry on
What would stop it? You can’t stop it. Play with random pugs and expect…random personalities and behaviors. Its like pouring gasoline in the kitchen with a leaky gas stove and asking “How do we make this less flammable?” You can’t unless you get rid of the gasoline and fix the stove.
You could write scientific paper on this topic
-depends on the age of the person. Younger people understand there is no real punishment for their behaviour, as Iron Mike put it “Social media made y’all way too comfortable with disrespecting people and not getting punched in the face for it.”
For older audience most likely they have finite time to play the game and “wasting” time is their trigger
And ofc those who are socially awkward in real life and it shows online
What could stop it?
Same thing you do in real life around toxic people, you don’t hang out with them, you avoid them until they are all alone in the corner of the room
Also I believe perception of “intelligence” plays a big part in it
Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face.
I think about this line everyday when I’m in the gym
I don’t know enough about emotional intelligence to consider that sort of thing, however it astounds me the amount of priority people give to things that have almost no chance at making their life better.
That facebook like (Or whatever social media people use today, I’m old), even that 3.5k Rio if you are lucky enough to get it, will make no difference whatsoever to your life, you’ll still be in the same house, with the same problems.
People reacting as they do to a game need to think about what could actaully improve their lives, and then perhaps they’ll have less reason to be angry at strangers on the internet.
Brann in delves are very intelligent and heedful. Always tells me when to dodge smth.
Sorry to both, I remade the last question. I had it written in the wrong sense.
I meant “What do you feel like it would stop you from doing it?”
Jordan Peterson also said it, what makes man civil in conversation, in real life, is that thin line, which both man knows, if they cross it there will be physical altercation, and thats what keeps us civil more or less. Take that physical altercation out of the equation and you get what you get .
I know coz I’m a troll, it’s a form of online toxicity, but I don’t provoke people on social media coz I know I won’t get punched, I troll coz I want to bring that reaction out of them and that’s my food.
But, it’s different type of toxicity altogether
I like this. I like this alot. Thank you.
And then proceeds to not dodge it himself. 
This is interesting. What do you feel like would make you stop that pattern?
Overinflated egos.
Have you considered the opposite?
If I had a very low self-esteem in real life, I’d be looking for it somewhere else.
This would come under one of the things I mentioned in my post, if people are doing badly IRL, they will try and do well online to try and feel better about their IRL situation, and then get frustrated when another makes a small mistake that prevents that from happening.
I feel a huge part of it is economic (and to some extent, political), no-one who is reasonably comfortable, will start sounding off at strangers online, and if they do, then perhaps there’s also an element of people’s pasts that encourages that behaviour.
For people to stop taking everything so serious online. It’s ridiculous, why do you lose your nerves over a stranger online? It’s stupid. There is X in top right corner lol (I’m not toxic in wow btw)