Hello everyone.
For months now i have watched people talking a lot about Season of Discovery, it still seems that’s very popular and populated.
I am more and more curious about this each passing day, i imagine that it’s not late to start a journey in SoD but i wonder what are the differences between this version and Vanilla or what we call Classic Era?
In my opinion the only real difference is that more specs and classes are made functional, as well as letting several classes perform roles they previously could not, such as tanking and healing.
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Hello @Shivette than you for reaching out.
That seems an improvement no? At least people get to play classes that may have been less picked in the past.
About the PvP scene do you know if it’s active at all in SoD?
Main differences:
- Community: more parsingwh**res. In general less casual and less friendly.
- Runes obviously: some cool new stuff, even if most of it is a best of of grandfathered retail skills / traits.
- Seasonal: the focus is not on the journey, but on experimenting endgame. You get exp buffs etc
- No GDKP (good!)
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I would say so.
There is no PVP scene, at least not in the sense that there is one in later version of WoW. You can do battlegrounds, the absolute travesty that is the STV event, world PVP or whatever. That said I’ve had a lot of fun doing PVP in SoD.
I don’t understand there is no PvP scene? No PvP community?
There’s plenty of people doing PVP, but I wouldn’t call it a community.
Seasonal also:
- Will be removed after some time, hence season
- Most content/gear will be irrelevant every 3 months
- Is not beta tested and will have poor balance
- Pvp is 1-2 second time to kill meta with classes being balanced only with pve in mind, regardless how poor pvp balance may be
- Somehow got the worst parts of retail community and classic community into one super toxic community
- Stronger faction inbalance in racials than both other versions
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Well…If what you say is true then i think i have to consider if i will join SoD.
I understand that in online games toxicity will always be a thing, it is what it is but if SoD managed to gather the worst of retail and classic into one then i might stay away from this and even WoW in general.
I wanted to try WotLK but at this point it seems somewhat late for that since i believe that Cataclysm will come earlier than August.
I was looking at SoD as the last beacon of light, if i might put it that way, to stick with WoW, maybe this is the key for me to get out 
But i honestly hope that you guys still here are enjoying the game.
The people that complain about toxicity are the ones that refuse to do the content with a guild or friends. The toxicity is most definitely there, but if you take a moment to find a nice guild you won’t notice much of it.
Furthermore this forum is the worst place to ask for opinions on the game, because most people that come here hate it.
players aren’t generally toxic on the whole, some people actually believe for some reason they need a CV and life story to run gnomer… and BFD to save an hour, this in itself is toxic to the overall players base. as for person to person interaction withing the game i haven’t seen any actual toxic attitudes, this doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen but based on my play, i can only assume it is rare. tbh it appears to be more common withing PVP groups/servers.
Hey again @Shivette .
Oh i get what you mean and please don’t get me wrong I have come across very nice people within this game even when i used to play retail.
The thing that i notice, and this is coming from someone with an outside perspective as i never touched SoD so i might be wrong here, is that Blizzard seems to want or have intention to the best of their ability to try and give vanilla a retail feel with SoD, this is what it seems and yes SoD is a season so it will end at some point but Blizzard being what it has become one has to wonder what they will do in the future to Vanilla with all the experiments and feedback that they will get from SoD.
Personally I think this is a season of discovery for the devs as much as it is for the players. They’ll see what works and what doesn’t in this iteration and use that to improve upon a future version, what some might call classic+.
Don’t expect too much and enjoy it for what it is would be my recommendation if you do play it.
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Hello @Inmortalis .
I guess that it all comes down to personal experience of each person and yes i agree that usually toxic behavior seems to be more common to PvP servers.
Maybe it’s also me that as a person/gamer isn’t fit for the WoW ecosystem anymore.
nah if i can squeeze back into this game with these new generation of weirdos, anyone can lol don’t worry most people are actually okay, you are just overthinking it i believe.
I have to be honest with you here, i know…this is the internet but as in life i don’t have a reason to lie here.
Maybe you are right, maybe I’m overthinking this but for a while i have lost that spark of love that i have had for Blizzard…not for WoW i still love this game, damn i remember starting this game in Warcraft 1 Orcs and Humans and from that point forward i grew passionate for this universe, i have books, small figures, t-shirts, game disks, a whole lot of stuff but seeing what Blizzard has become it has been a pain for me to watch.
One thing that has pissed me off over time is that WoW over the years has been having a roller coaster in terms of the quality of the expansions with so many ups and downs, Blizzard trying reinventing the wheel each time, the scandals and other stuff that i still believe that they could and should have being better at managing and dealing with that stuff.
Just for sake of comparison since i played 2 different MMORPG’s it’s hard and at times sad to seem Blizzard drop the ball with some of the WoW expansions and then i switch to FF14 for a while just to get a taste of it and almost without realizing it i left there shy of 800 hours and i can say that in FF14 each new expansion was, to some extent, better than the previous one…so it isn’t impossible to improve when going forward and i don’t know how they do it in FF14, i can’t explain it, is the culture, the hard working mentality of the Japanese culture, the respect that the devs have for the players maybe? I don’t know, what i know is that for the time that i played that game i felt like my time was respected and myself as a player felt respected by the community, people are more polite, more open minded, the game itself is more aware of noobs/new players, i was getting rewards for what i put my work into.
One thing that i always loved in WoW was the PvP, i can tell you that in FF14 isn’t that great, some even say that it’s bad (i don’t know how are things now but they have a niche community there) but i played a fair bit of PvP in XIV and i was able to work to the pieces of gear and weapons that i wanted without having to rely in RNG…in WoW wasn’t always like that.
Again I’m not blaming the game itself, i think that WoW to it’s core is still a awesome game but the ones that create it have long changed purpose, course…call it what you want and I’m sure that many to this day still play WoW for that sense of nostalgia and i can understand that, as for me and as i said above maybe my cycle here is done but i have good memories, i have met nice people.
Garrosh said it best “Times change”… the more i think about it the more i believe he was right.
Sorry for the long replies by the way but it’s nice to come across people we can talk to like you @Inmortalis @Shivette @Finkle @Satalin .
I say this with all the positive vibes in me, i do wish that you guys keep enjoying that game, if you are having fun then that’s all that matters.
FF14 despite some faults has always put the story first and in an MMO that is most important i think. retail here they appear to have forgot that and almost all expansions have been squashed into something unrecognizable for older players. but honestly SoD is classic/hybrid it might be seasonal but i honestly like the feel playing it, there are plenty of guilds looking for new people too so that isn’t an issue and there is a lot of people willing to just chat in general or trade too for fun. really with the additional skills it is easier than classic itself. and it isn’t anywhere near vanilla like it is on the HC version. if you do decide to try the game again at some point, i don’t think you will be too disappointed with this version. good luck.
I have interacted on these forums for a while.
Finally someone that thinks that this is a thing : “FF14 despite some faults has always put the story first and in an MMO that is most important i think. retail here they appear to have forgot that and almost all expansions have been squashed into something unrecognizable for older players.” Exactly this, i think that more than once Blizzard and even a part of the player base has forgotten the RPG in MMORPG…
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The main difference and why I play it is an element of surprise! Your class was a hero now you’re a zero? Surprise!
Naaah, that’s mainly forums. Encountered very little toxicity in the game itself. And I did try to ask for it!
Hi there!
I think, in general ppl here already explained you all the differences. There is only one thing left - the “individual impression”. You have to try it yourself.
Sod is released periodically with phases (every phase have his additional content), untill we get lvl 60 and endgame content.
It is based on classic era wow platform, in most part it is limited by that.
Pretty mutch that’s it.
Everyone is judging different way, you can’t see trough others eyes.
Reality is: there is nothing perfect, and yet no better MMMORPG than WOW, according to facts.
Peace!