What's the point of the pocketsized computational device?

At 410 it sims 200~250 dps lower than either of my 400 trinkets.

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I respecced to fire and when doing stat weights I noticed intellect dropped down to iirc third place.

So theoretically, you could stack the mechagon trinket with secondary stats cards and maybe it comes out on top.

Idk my 2 cents

Got a vers+crit yellow punch card and a 1100 haste red punch card, it just doesn’t add up to the 339 agility + chance of 400 or 800 crit for x seconds

Is your spec one of those whose secondary stats outweigh their primary stat?

For Havoc it’s stated that:

  1. Versatility;
  2. Critical Strike = Haste;
  3. Agility;
  4. Mastery.

So I’d say so… I expected it to sim higher, but it doesn’t.

You need to try various combinations to get a punch card worth having. TF cards help also.

Initially I was a bit meh. My current card is working out fine though. I have the optimisation red, vers and haste (bleh on haste) yellow.
When optimisation procs it increases my versatility by an absurd amount, around 15-20% versatility gained. Sure I lose some crit and mastery during proc, but nowhere near enough compared to what I gain (I also gain some haste, but eh, I’d rather mastery). With my wep proc and amulet I’ve had moments where I hit over 40% versatility, and this isn’t necessarily infrequent either. It can happen multiple times. As a tank having such a good DR just passively proc along with the dmg is great in my opinion.

Have you considered the optimisation card in red with a crit/vers yellow? If you enjoyed the crit gain from the other trinket this will achieve much the same, probably much higher gains for crit when it procs.

Explore the combos a little. I really like the optimisation card because it allows for some bleh itemisation to become ridiculously good when it procs. Ie a lot of my gear has haste on it which is pretty meh for BM. Gives me a ton of versa during this proc however.

I haven’t had a single red punch card drop yet, ran mechagon 1.5x (same char, but trash drops), nor anything from mechagon dailies. So I guess that’s the problem I have?

It doesn’t drop in mechagon. You craft it from pascal if you have a, blue punch card equipped that allows you to see a secret recipe. The blue punch card drops from various mobs in mechagon.

You’d need to sim it, but I imagine for certain dps classes, particularly those that have a defined builder spender playstyle having a proc which shoves all of your secondaries into two preferred stats could be pretty good. Particularly if they’re reasonably ahead of other secondaries.

The proc gives you free secondaries on top as well (around 270 I believe) before pooling and dividing so it’s generally an outright boost, so long as the secondaries in your yellow are good stats. I’m still hunting for a yellow at the same ilevel (my current TFed to 420)with vers and ceit/mastery on it because haste is pretty low for me comparatively.

The red card from mechagon rep vendor is nuts for ST. Our main tank uses it and can compete with DPS on ST fights. The trinkets poop for AoE though so far, not seen any good AoE red cards.

I am too lazy to try various combinations etc… will hope for EP drops!

Simming Pukes

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I just use it for the red quartermaster card tbh, makes for a stupidly strong opener.

the rep vendor red card is crazy strong for single target. and i’m a mage with lots of aoe abilities. So it works for me.

It’s still crazy strong. You can move while using it and i think even during channeling. Which is better than most things.

It was really strong before the nerfed it but it was basically broken then. Didn’t trigger your trinket c/d and you could use and then use other abilities while it channeled.

I’m not sure how my reply appears below yours yet you quote me. However for me it’s no longer a strong trinket post fix/nerf :slight_smile:

because i didn’t want to double post. so i edited the old post.

As for not strong, It boosts my dps, without using heroic or any other long cooldowns to 30k/s on single targets for a while and consistently about 22~23k for longer periods. So i consider it decent enough tbh.

That explains the sorcery xD

A friend who plays a caster still finds it strong but as a melee who has to use another on use trinket it dropped off considerably after the fix.

yea. probably not crazy strong for melees anymore. But for casters, before each rotation, you can use it and it works great.

It depends puny. In raid I proc it when pull cd is @ 1second, so my DPS skyrocket to 40k and then I do my opening, touching 50k easily, 55 if hero at start… ofc DPS will stabilise during the fight but this to me is a good initial boost. And use it when everything is on cd. It’s good for me.

Again you are ranged and my bis trinket is on use and ofc I use it with my wings. Once they fixed the pocket sized trinket, it dropped down in my sims immensely.

I’m not telling anyone to stop using it. I’m saying sim yourself or play with it. It was effective for me to use before the fix but useless after.

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