Whats the use farming legacy content now when it'll just come back in a remix?

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The only thing that would be missing from a WoD remix would be the removal of the garrison much like the farm was removed in MoP remix.

It clearly wasn’t designed to be, if anything it was an arcade version of MoP, slam in your quarters in the machine and get what you could from it before you got bored.

MoP had the best reputation system in the expansions. People still want it returned to MoP style.

Most people’s goals were, that they wanted the Tusks of Mannoroth and the only way to get them was to mythic raid Garrosh for a specific token. Personally I used it to get my 500 mounts achievement, some pterrowings Ive always liked since they first appeared, a heap of transmogs and a very quick, very efficient way to get alts to level 70 which will be transferred to retail once Remix is done.

Because they are completely different.

Classic is the game as it was when it was first released.

Remix is revamped version of that expansion with extras.

They are not the same at all.

You can still do that. You just go and farm the expansion raids you want. You can do it with MoP right now and not even look at remix.

Then Blizzard should stop developing items for all, including Classic, because FOMO has been a thing in videogames ever since 1 player could play against another player.

I would also argue those same people went into remix, farmed the bronze for the mount they were farming since the start of MoP and loudly shouted THANK (BLEEP) I DON’T HAVE TO GO THERE AGAIN!!"

Farming for whatever seems an eternity for a mount that just absolutely refuses to drop is what killed time, and Remix removed that.

I for one would not give a hoot if Blizzard remixed WotLK and put Invincible in a vendor for 45k bronze. I’m sick of seeing it drop and yet never ever once seeing a Blazing Drake drop. If that was put in a vendor I’d snap that up so quick you wouldn’t see me coming.

And what purpose would that serve except for e-preeners to feel all superior and yell “HAH I GOT MINE MORE LEGIT THAN YOU!!”

Silly point.

I feel at this point you’re wasting your time with Kyle.

Which is why Remix allowed them to buy them with bronze.

Or are you content to allow everyone to “respect” their time by wasting hour after hour chasing a drop with a 0.1% as opposed to farming some bronze.

That’s a pretty selfish viewpoint there fella.

Yes. Like it has ever since TBC was released. So why would people go farming raids in DF when they can wait for the third chapter of TWW saga and just faceroll it?

I really do wish more people agreed with us on that point.

I must admit. I do smell jealousy in the air.

Only part that annoyed me was getting my first toon to 70, then after you get your cloak and cloak exp boost, you’re literally blowing on the enemies and you’re killing them. remember the Klaxx rare elites? I remember they would oneshot a max level MoP char in two hits of they got caught in the special flurry attack, and the Jinryu’s rainfall special. Now you can just stand there and laugh.

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Yes and no. In and of itself, yes ,no question.

But if that new player wants to play retail afterwards , they may be in for a very rude awakening after getting transferred…

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I disliked remix a great deal dungeons and raids were no fun for me personally , i know a lot of people enjoyed nuking and 1 shotting but it got dull and felt a drag. So i got the mog and mounts i wanted and left.

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Which is what I did with my alts, I used their zeal to blast through everything to my advantage. Simply run after them, stand at a boss and get the free exp, spools and bronze.

I could care less if mr warrior with 6.5 million hp was doing 300k dps.

You gave me a tonne of free levels and bronze fella. See ya!

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i do find it funny that ppl farmed 10+ years the wb mounts and now we got them in ~10 days of playing, which brings up the same boring subject of ppl wanting everything without trying while making fun of ppl who “cry about pixels” when they say that they disagree

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Wb mounts have been a moot point ever since Evoker released.

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I loved my garrison. I would expect a fully kitted out one in compensation and garden full of carrots.

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I think at the end of the day it comes down very much to the type of players who still actively play wow now.

For the most part that is players who want quick and easy over deep and challenging.

I personally always liked the fact there were premium items in the game which were coveted by people from previous contents it gave that content meaning imo.

Now “if” they continue to do a remix for each expansion , what is the point of having that legacy content in retail anymore?

They might as well revamp the entire world and make it all relevent content cataclysm style.

Release zones as patches.

Edit: in this sense this is why i like gw2 world as all the content stays relevent as the max level never increases.

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it was a good filler content to keep people busy cuz once again there was no .3 patch so they recycled s4 and added remix so subs dont drop a lot

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Shouldn’t this thread be named: Remix was such a great idea, we get 100% drop rates.

Maybe you don’t understand, but a 100% drop rate means it’s guaranteed, so why are you arguing for the 1% drop rate?

Oh, this is not about you getting the mount, it’s about so that other players don’t get it.

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And what about people who have been trying for 10 years and are absolutely sick of it? Those people now finally get that elusive drop.

What you’re portraying is a very black and white situation, while there’s actually many shades of gray.

I think they should; not actually make everything max level content, but at the very least add World Quests (you know… WORLD quests… in … the… world?) all over the entire map of Azeroth.

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Why even play the game at all. Just wait until 2036 and you’ll be able to do the entire game in a month.

All you’ll be missing out on is the fun of playing a game.

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I certainly think if you’re farming +1’s for your collection just for the sake of collecting, then it would be wise to emphasize collecting the things that are likely to remain as they are, and then leave the things that may potentially see some changes, for later.
That would be the optimal way to distribute limited time toward an infinitely-growing collection.

Tl;dr: Don’t spend a long time trying to collect something that may become easier to collect in the future. Spend that time collecting things that are unlikely to become easier.

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I think to this I should ask: why is Remix time-limited? What about those that join the game in two months and want those mounts for the same amount of effort that I got them? And what if they were on a longer break but have been farming for those mounts for nearly ten years as well? Why are they “worse people” for not playing at the time Remix was playable? Why can they not get all these goodies? Why do they have to keep farming the 1% mounts?

=) Let´s say I was that player.

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I think: It’s time limited because Blizzard figures this will have the biggest impact on their subscription count. And because having this active all the time would completely negate the existence of the actual content within retail.

It’s mostly based on FOMO. They want people to re-sub to do remix. Of course they do.
Is it right for them to do such a thing? Well, that’s another discussion.
The point is that they did. And they likely will again; because as far as I can tell it’s been a success.

There’s people missing out on stuff all the time; that’s the nature of MMORPGs. Experiencing the content of an expansion after it’s no longer current is simply a WAY different experience.

Would I personally like rewards to always be available in some way, shape or form? Yes. Yes I would.
I don’t mind time limited content; but I do mind the rewards being gone forever.

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Yes. Now why can we not apply this to past mounts that are unobtainable or very rare?Are there no double standards here :slight_smile:

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Very rare is totally different from unobtainable.

I personally have no issue with ‘very rare’.
But I do have an issue with ‘unobtainable’.

I don’t get what point you’re trying to make though?
I just shared my thoughts that someone was looking at the situtation in a very black and white way. I said that there are many shades of grey. So… I’m confused why you’re bringing up these things with me?

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Just for the sake of discussion. Nothing to do with you personally, or your views. I just like discussing things and I often take on the role of a friend I know who thinks a certain way or has asked me these questions. Even here on the forums I often just take the side of the minority, despite what I personally think, to find some common ground and to encourage people who feel outnumbered to post their thoughts here too.

Not all the time can I remain impassionate though :smiley:

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Fair enough. Thanks for explaining. I thought I was missing something I said. :sweat_smile:

So in short:
I don’t mind missing an experience in an MMORPG.
But I do mind the tangible rewards of that experience no longer being obtainable.

I hope that makes my stance clear. And that stance is the same whether or not I actually have those rewards myself: Because I think every player should be able to enjoy that stuff, even if it’s a few years down the line.
I don’t feel the same about ‘the experience’ though. I think that is fine as a ‘you had to be there’ kind of thing.

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Yep I got you :slight_smile: Thanks!

What about the following scenario though: Let us say that the unobtainable mounts stayed unobtainable but a very close tint became available instead. Is it the same? Even if it looked cosmetically almost identical. If not, why would you still want the unobtainable mount to be available?