Im mainly watching Alchemy in AH and crafting and selling potions is just pointless, herbs to craft them are more expensive then the potions, specially Flasks, herbs to craft those are almost two times more expensive then crafted Flask it self.
Whats wrong with people for selling potions two times cheaper then herbs needed to craft them ?
And I haw seen some people who just sell alot of solo potions for much cheaper prices that look like they do that to just demolish the prices on purpose, wth ?
I am too bit confused about the whole reagents vs product situation. I dont know if it is because Bfa-professions don’t require previous expansions skills so everyone can take and make pots and flask for themselves so everyone would be buying reagents for themselves thus driving cost up. And since everyone can make pots, no-one/very few would buy flask/pots from AH and this would lower AH prices.
Just because a herb is priced a certain amount on the AH, doesn’t mean the people selling flasks and potions bought them for that much. There are plenty of ways to get them cheaper than that, meaning they can also afford to sell their flasks and potions cheaper.
You also need to consider that rank 3 recipes will on average give you 50% more of whatever you’re crafting, so there’s that, too.
Your talking like the one whos not makint them but just buying. Profesions should bring you money back, but now theres no profit from them.
And what your that every other way to get herbs doesnt take time or efort and its considered 0 !
Plus the 50% extra RNG potions is becouse people had to level that profesion and spend money or do quests to get to that 50% extra RNG, they had to put effort fort that, and your saying that all the effort put into profession is pointless.
I’ve made plenty of gold through alchemy this expansion. Just because you can’t, doesn’t mean others who are more well versed in it also can’t.
Yes, it is absolutely viable to make gold with alchemy. For the most part I do farm sea stalk and riverbud in Nazmir and simply buy the rest of the reagents, thus bringing the cost of the pots and flask down. But what I mean and pretty much the whole point of the post was that the AH prices are so much more expensive that even with the extra proc change you would end up losing money.
And I haven’t been paying attention to the the actual proc change itself but at the start of the BfA it would round up at 20%. (every cast average 1.2 flask/potion).
Yeah, I dont see the point in selling any crafted stuff when you can just sell the materials for much more then the crafted thing is worth, The point is that people who sell crafted items cheap they just loose a ton of gold just cuz raw materials can be sold for much more, thats so freaking stupid.
Imagine a scenario where there is a herb that is currently 25g/each on the AH. You need 10 of this herb to make a potion. That potion is currently listed for 150g on the AH.
Someone who’s bad at goldmaking will think everyone else is stupid and complain on the forums about it. Someone who’s not bad at goldmaking will realize that the people selling those potions, are in all likelihood getting their herbs cheaper. Maybe they have a friend who likes to herb, who mails them every herb they find for 20g/each, for example.
Like I’ve already said, just because you can’t figure out how to make money with something, doesn’t mean other people also can’t.
Mr smartass Narcind imagine theres a hers that is 25g/ eatch adn you haw 10 of them, and you need 2 to make a potion, but that potion is selling for 30gold, so whats the point of selling a potion for 30 gold, if you can sell those 2 herbs needed for that potion for 50 gold and make almost double the gold ?
Because if that person is getting their herbs at 20g/each, they break even on crafting costs. If they are getting them even cheaper, they are turning a profit.
The reason why’d you craft potions is because they have a much cheaper deposit fee than herbs, meaning you stand to lose less if they don’t sell, and if herbs really are that much more expensive than potions, you’re probably going to sell more potions than herbs.
The way your describing a profit is just pointless time waste.
Breaking even… searching for a guy whos selling cheap herbs (btw almost nobody).
And also herbs are also for inscription, and they are selling good and expensive. You dont need to think about deposit price of herbs cuz they are already expensive and make much better profit then potion.
Even WQ are more profitable then Alchemy.
Right now Cooking is much more profitable then Alchemy. cost 12g to cook 48g to sell, and they sell in stacks of 20.
wow im a sales manager in irl and just checked this post.
what u wrote down here is a realy bad way to making money…
If u want to make good profit you should do the following:
Selling the matterials on the market
Buying all the potion which are that cheap
Keep doing this till you got money and bunch of potion in ah .
Wait till next raid open . Before the raid open the potion price are double or triple .
Enjoy the profit
This is what you should realise if u are good in gold making . There are also some difference when raid reset day .
For example most of the boe have higher price at the end of the id week and have lower price after reset.
One more thing here. Do u read your post before post it? Do u realise that what you wrote ther?
25g ah price for herb and 150g a potion so our man have 100g lose/potion.
In your example this man have a friend who selling herbs for 20g each so this people still has 50g lose.
If im start working with ur method after 1-2 week i will go into bank bankrupt.
I’m aware, but OP is clearly not very good at making gold, so I doubt he’d have enough money to invest into doing something like that.
I do realize what I said, 20g a herb means 200g a craft. 1.5 potion per craft because you’d be an idiot to try and make gold without rank 3. Meaning 200*0.67 = 134g per potion.
About Alchemy, my guildmate had proc on potion last night and it gave him 12 from single “create” so i don’t think he wasted money, because he could sell mats on ah
Also important part is that prices in AH are quite volatile, if you want to make some money, you need to know when it’s worth to buy or sell something and when not… for example on evening when many guilds raid, prices will most likely go up as people need to get flasks and potions.
I had a proc of 20 flasks ones, and only ones in 6 months… this doesnt mean its worth, everyone knows that professions are fked up for a rly long time now, but ppl like you whos still defending are keeping blizzard from doing anything about it.
Raiders buy the cheapest unprofitable ones cuz they are on the top of AH, when the new raid comes out then everything is purchased cuz theres a ton of ppl buying at ones, but that is only every 6 months or so, most of you talking about something what happens two times a year, theres to many cheap unprofitable stuff placed in AH and ppl buy those first, but the reasonable price stuff dont even get a chanse of purchase, cuz after the cheap purchases ppl dont need anything else to buy.
I don’t know if you are just not checking the prices or if your server economy is just different, but on my server for example the price of Sirens Sting varies between like 35g and 55g (data from last 2 weeks) depending on the supply and demand, that’s quite a big difference and that’s definitelly not only twice a year, sure when new raid releases the spike is usually much bigger.
You’ve been given plenty of reasons as to why things are listed for the prices that they are, but you refuse to listen and only want to complain because you’re completely clueless when it comes to goldmaking.