Think like that there’s so much you can put up till eventually your lid pops up and you lose it completely.
There’s so many evil Warchiefs you can put up with until you had enough.
For me at least Garrosh was already too much. I don’t think they needed a second version of it in the form of Sylvanas.
For me WoW is a adventure game and none should be told by the narrative how bad/helpless they are for what they chose years ago.
It’s like they went that extra mile this time to make sure everyone would talk about it.
If this is their measurement of how successful their story was, than congratulations.
Keep that attitude, while I will watch every expansion from 1 maybe 2 expansions distance away, just to be safeguarded.
The old say tells:
" Foul me once, shame on you.
Foul me twice shame on me."
You 2 realize that the Horde lost Sylvanas, just for the sake of some people laughing at the start of the expansion ?
I don’t like Sylvanas, however I don’t think the Forsaken are in a better moral situation than before WoT, no matter how much they will try to justify Sylvanas actions. (Good luck with that, when the other half of the player base that plays alliances is demanding justice for Teldrassil).
As for me she was always the black sheep of the Horde and BFA only enforced that.
it’s been a slow burn since the Cataclysm pre-patch to be honest. Halion becoming the true final boss of Wrath was really, really silly. since then it’s been a slew of half-baked Call of Duty-style militaristic machine guns and helicopters nonsense, wasting characters left and right, telling not showing, and vague superhero comicbook gunk.
the 9.1 spoilers have euthanised what lingering interest i had in the world’s overall lore. i find myself having no faith whatsoever in the writers to do anything interesting or satisfying with the threads they’re dangling. which is a shame coz i’ve just started Ardenweald on my Druid and i kinda like it.
Personal taste is personal taste. I think Sylvanas had value but the choice to willingly follow the Jailer because he would “free us all” isn’t really something a veteran Ranger General and faction leader of her cunning would do considering that it’s no mistery that he also was the Litch King boss (and so the responsible of her enslavement to begin with).
I also fear for the fate of the Forsaken as a faction, if Lady Menethil becomes the sole leader than most of their characterization would evaporate. I think that giving back Nathanos and put him in charge of them would be the best choice, he is still a capable miltary strategist and keeps the cunning that the faction needs.
As for Thrall, I liked him more than any other developed orc, especially if they make him more faceted than just being the good leader. He being the first Shaman after years is a powerful thing for a race that was based on Shamanism and lost everything because the Burning Legion corrupted them, I also hope that Baine groves some spine.
The attempts at making the Alliance and Horde go to peace are nearing the ridiculus right now especially because they need to fail because otherwise the game goes to the dumpster as a concept. The only way to keep them going is a “constructive conflict”. No big bombing of capital cities, just a constant attrition over territories while building actual reason for one faction not being able or not having it convenient for the other faction to disappear.
You think that Jailer is using Sylvanas?
Because sadly i will inform you that Sylvanas is using him and she will get what she wants.
You know that people request the Siege of Stormwind that blizzard owes the horde since MoP right?
With your kings betrayal, get ready the end is near.
Also that was his first, Ilgynoth said he will lie to us 3 times. More coming.
We belong to polar opposites of the Horde.
BFA was a lost chance to split this faction.
Tired of seeing people like Thrall and Vol’jin having to clean up the mess, after people like Sylvanas and Garrosh disgraceful actions.
Laughing when losing a main character ?
Than why you post ?
Saurfang had a decent funeral, surrounded by everyone.
They should both be killed and the Horde council overthrown. We don’t need weaklings in our leadership. Death to those who made peace with the Alliance.
Yes, they invested so much time and money in his development, just to kill him off. He seemed like he was there to succeed Sylvanas.
Nathanos is everything a Forsaken leader should be. I still can’t recover from his death tbh.
I think that’s when I realized that the Forsaken are in deep waters and consequently, gave up on all my hopes.
Honestly, the Forsaken lore is all I care about in this game and sadly, that’s gone wrong in so many ways. Can’t believe they would utterly destroy a race like that in a single expansion. They left them with nothing.
At least the night elves still have the Malfy-Tyrande combo. We have Voss and Calia
Even if he returns he is too deeply dependant on Sylvanas right now, he should be given some time and development to carry on her will even if she isn’t coming back and give him more purpose than being his Lady underling.
Youre counting on that?
Lets see you + more when time comes
Yep, everything that doesnt go along with the typical edgy alliance forum warrior is delusional.
Yet you guys crying 1.5 year for something that is fiction, the irony
You still dont know that what you dream since BFA is not happening?
Damn, you will be really hurt soon when chains hit live
I dont care about both sides, the alliance mains that rerolled horde like you do care though but only when their fragile EGO gets hurt.
You fight in the forums?
Garrosh happened, Blizzard understood their mistake.
Now get ready because 9.1 hits live soon and you have another round of crying about sylvanas to participate at.
Old news.
She’s a female character and beloved by Steve Danuser.
Of course she will get away.
They might pull a Kerrigan 2.0.
But her time on the Horde is over.
I am yet to see a higher level character of the Alliance, on my account superior to 10.
That’s my NE Druid.
But go ahead, you just proved you can’t accept other Horde players have a different opinion than yours, without jumping to conclusions.
I know your post history to know this: every single of your replies are looking for one.
They would be better of not doing them.
Actually Sylvanas is more popular in EU.
In US ?
People are tired of it.
By the way, I believe you have more time played as Alliance than I do.
True horde is the alliance loving term that the traitor Thrall is using.
You better learn what youre talking first
Look what your friend is saying below:
Before that in your “JUSTICE” delirium you thought otherwise, good seeing you coming to senses.
Imagine being a horde player and want justice for alliance…
Now show me an alliance player that wants justice for the horde
You basically slap your face with your own argument
Yep, its a “NO ME,YOU!” argument with straight facts.
Actually you have on one side an entire player base wanting her head, on the other an author wanting to redeem her.
It will be interesting to see how this show is going to end.
The narrative doesn’t help.
But keep defending it, while saying, it’s justified.
I am sure the writers are more than willing to villain bat the Horde as many times as it needed, because players like you will always defend them.
Actually taken after reading some of the replies Erieven got in his posts in US forums.