When you wake up on saturday morning and you realise m+ just died

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I’m actually playing the beta. Slightest mistake and you die in a +15. That’s less forgiving than 20s are even now.

Nope data mined info once again caused confusion and people got mislead since that was only 1 half, 20s reward higher Ilvl gear and better gear for vault equal to end mythic boss outside of the special weapon

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I hope the portals don’t move from level 20. But I agree there must be some reward for doing level 25.

And yet the loot of a +20 is now equel to all xept last 2 bosses of MYTHIC raiding.
Raiding is dead, not M+…

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M+ having different scoring between tyrannical and fortified weeks is a bigger issue imo, they should remove both of them and change the scaling.

I never pushed keys (but may do it in DF) but the decision to do this made me resent what Blizzard did with m+.

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Keep telling that to yourself untill 1 day you will hear on discord you are benched and repalaced by new recruits WHO push for 20s.

And only 1 affix is active (if i see it right). Wait till we have 3 more.

You can choose the active affixes yourself on the beta.

How is m+ dead? If anything it’s becoming more popular due to getting the right amount of numbers together for a raid.

I mean, if i lose my spot to trials that outperform me, I am ok with that. This is part of being in a cutting edge guild (and one of the things I knew when I joined).

Although I do not think you have to worry about that while raiding heroic.

You have to worry about this in any kind of guild. Doesnt matter if you clear whole RAID or 1 Boss. You may end up benched .

And nobody will look at your performance but at your dedication for the team . You will be percived as lazy and that others will have to carry you .

And you will be benched . Just wait.

No I actually mean DF Sets.
But in the end I have no first hand experience and can only repeat what i was told so i’ll keep my mouth shut about difficulty.

Did you mean with Tier Sets from SL? Because, eventually we will need to change from SL Tier Sets for gear upgrades in DF, and the sense of difficulty could feel different than it is now, so it may not be easier, unless Tier Sets in DF are good.

I didn’t play DF Beta and I didn’t look up Tier Set bonuses in DF, but according to what I read. The other players that read about Tier Set bonuses claim that the Tier Sets in DF are mostly weak, except for 1-2 specific classes.

Thats fine, but I still heard some players claim that some set bonuses in DF are weak. I hope they will buff those, in that case. Well, we will need to wait for the DF release to know it first hand.

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I guess they are about to buff them

not sure on how much they will change

Cool Story Bro

Its amazing

Raiders are saying m+ just killed raiding

And m+ saying they just killed m+

It makes 0 sense, m+ is fine. Top 1% is m+30. Almost the entire dungeon lfg tab are +20s lol stop with the lies.

The difficulty of content is being dropped in DF, the dungeons are alot faster, and far easier im on beta and can state its easily the case.

If you got KSM in season 4, ur going to easily do +20s in DF. Its going to be faster, and alot less effort.

Im 80 points off KSM without 4 set, (it just hasnt dropped im unlucky AF) its going to be fine.

I hope they chsnge the decision around catalyst to opening earlier, but considering the launch date, it rly wont matter as by the time we approach it most wont be online due to christmas period anyway

So, if those beta players are people from your guild on thrall… I can understand why they think it’s easier, they can’t mess up something as simple as the iron stars. Yes, I played with someone from your guild on thrall just now in a key and he screwed the whole key up by not killing anything with the iron stars. Possibly the worst player I’ve ever come across.

Not exactly sure what guild you mean…

As this toon hasn’t have a guild since BfA…

Stop playing dumb, I know which your other characters are.

I wonder… did you make the same posts when they changed your max vault/chest from +10 to +15?