And here we are again with sub numbers xD
Imo, some reasons why mop was vastly superior to everything, that has come after it.
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Classes felt complete.
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Pre prune, after that in wod, some classes lost 1/3 of their overall abilities.
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specs were more unique.
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Pre squish, “our engine can’t cope with big numbers
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The music, and the landmass was actually pleasant to hang around in,
especially :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74ngNinI6Tg
Yeah what they should do, is phase that 
outta there!
when the toon has passed that point in the story.
Level 13* paladin.
I am not attacking your point of view, just noticing and saying she is a drama queen and a terrible burden for the Alliance , her fleet is usefull , she isn’t anymore !
We are just talking politely and calmly about it but the character of Jaina Proodmore show clear sign of Bipolarity disorder, I for one think she raise tensions and appease them when it please her and she find it convenient too much and often/
Just like when she tryed to force King Varian to run to his death alone against all the horde leaders and all the hordes grunts etc…, after siege of Orgrimmar and when she marvelously vanished when King Varian felt to his fatefull death all of a sudden she was nowhere to be seen and couldn’t use her magic of course , of course … pfff !!!
I for one think she need to go and by go mean die but it will not happen of course because only filler/recently discovered female characters or pseudo important vaguely female like being can die and even then, since it is with the banshee, christie golden favorite characters…
Get rid of the witch and her nasty influence Hordes before the noble Goel/Thrall pay his friendship with the proodmore with his life !
Won’t You honor and take revenge on her for King Rastakhan’s fate ???!!! Blood for blood, as she took vengeance upon You for Theramore !
I never played Pandaria, I would love to play it 
Are you trolling? At the end of SoO, Varian was literally surrounded by his allied leaders and armies, while the Horde leaders only had a bunch of grunts. He could have easily listened to Jaina’s advice.
Oh yeah you’re trolling, I just read the final sentences.
I’d take warrior and paladin class design back at any point…
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Certainly not, the aim of the Siege of Orgrimmar was for some of us to avoid another war with the hordes and show them than not ony we can rely on them like with the events of Icecrown if not for his honor and a greater threat Saurfang the younger could have easily crushed us flanked us.
Instead that vile snake use her poisonous her hate filled words to put Varian in mistake, you are too sure of yourself even if a few horde leaders died we would of lost some too and the aftermath would have been terrible !
Same for King Varian’s death all of a suden ocus pocus she was nowhere to be seen since he didn’t let her puppet him , have a good night ! Dinner time !
There are many Varius themes for main hub and it especially changed with patch where Zandalari were recruited.
But I agree that for hubs there should be calm ambient music. Still it’s not as bad as Boralus One.
Classic MOP when.
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You think you want it…but you don’t…
I must be the only one who hated that expansion
Legion’s login screen is the one that gave me chills everytime
The chills I get from this soundtrack are 10 times higher in intensity when I listen to the Vanilla soundtrack.
I guess it probably has to do with where you started your journey in WoW.
I don’t know, Vanilla was Ok, but nothing special musically, but despite the expansion it was Cata’s soundtrack that proper gave me the “ooooh yeeeeah” feeling.
Cool idea, I’ll remember to do this 8 years from now with the SL menu screen.
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I’ve found ways to play Mop through the years. I definitely want it! If I don’t, then I’ll consider myself like a second zone citizen compared to wrath or tbc fans.
@Rektem: If you examine the graphs available (in several current other threads), you actually know what you wrote here is absolutely false. Cataclysm lost slightly more people (from roughly 12+ million to about 8,7 million near the end before starting to climb towards MoP launch) than MoP did (from launch high of about 10 million to a fairly steady 7,5+ million (with a small upward bump in early 2014) for over a year and finally additional loss of about 500 000 near the end before starting to climb back towards WoD launch) and numbers did not drop close to 5 million until quite some time into WoD even though WoD launch was extremely rocky in several ways.
Things are even clearer, if one ignores the launch and major update spikes and focuses on the low points after the end of WotLK instead. At the end of WotLK the figure plateaued at around 12 million. Cataclysm lost about 3,3 million over its’ course. The drop from low of Cataclysm to low of MoP was only about 1,7 million. Further comparing the last official data point from Blizzard during WoD we can see that WoD had at that point lost an additional roughly 2 million compared to lowest point during MoP. I also recall multiple people insisting that figure kept going down hard even after that (, which is an opinion I do NOT share, by the way). In other words, MoP actually outperformed both Catalclysm and WoD in terms of resisting baseline player loss. And considering some doomsayers insist to this day that WoD hit the numbers even harder than Cataclysm did… Well, if they were right, that would just make MoP even better in relative terms.
Granted, some things are speculative, but I simply can not agree with your basic premises of MoP alone causing over 4 million in permanent baseline loses. Simply not possible, in any shape or form, in my in this case not so humble opinion. In fact, it is marginally possible that the baseline loss did not quite reach 4,2 million even from the low of Cataclysm end to the last public point of WoD (a significantly longer time period than just MoP).
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I like to think that WoW’s Legendary Story kind of ended with WotLK. That becasue the story was in place for ALOT of YEARS and those years meant alot of time to POLISH IT.
All that happend after WotLK was kind of mediocre. At the same time MMORPG as a genre started to descend, so it is kind of normal for a flower to flourish then fade, it is just as natural as other genres went extinct or turned into a niche.
After WotLK I had my times of “WoW is slowly dieing” but after more years have passed, after I’ve seen how my RL changed my gaming habbits and gaming needs, I’ve started to think it is just a natural move-on from the MMORPG to something else … BattleRoyale maybe … dunno.
The last expansion that i enjoyed with my rebecca and as she was called in gam. Skïlls-Draenor. I’ll never forget you my love and i pray that you’ll one day return to me and we can be whole once more.
Cry that such abomination killed wow