Where are Zandalari Warlocks?

Zandalari were supposed to be the apex civilisation of trolls’ voodoo culture, which would naturally include warlocks amongst them.
Especially since WoW is going back to class identity instead of this disappointing meme tier spec centred design.
Why can’t Zandalaris be warlocks, since dark voodoo practitioners have always been like warlocks were in pre-Legion?

Right now Zandalari are a terrible Mayan Wakanda parody with lack of any dark voodoo magic excluding spriest spec. And since that’s likely getting trashed too in Shadowlands, there’s literally nothing left to resemble dark voodoo culture in the apex of troll societies.
A troll society that has just lifted loa of death, a master of dark & necromantic magics, over anything else. And there has been dark voodoo magics amongst Zandalari always before Rastakhan’s bargain.

muh warlocks are only using fel powers

utter bollocks, warlocks have always been master of all dark magics, not some meme tier made up “chaos” magic.

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Fel is Chaos Magic now, and that’s Canon, whether you like it or not. Chaos has even existed as far back as Warcraft 3.

Zandalari don’t use Fel, so they don’t have warlocks (even though they were originally revealed to have it at first).

im not 100% sure on the warlock and magic lore but zandalari/vulpera would have been great to introduce a voodoo class or something.

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Yet there’s none in zandalar and only 1 outcast in vol’dun.

Cuz both things are differents (curses != demon) and blizz said that it’s not cultural thing for Zandalaris to summon demons. There’s only one of them, not enough to justify a new class. The empire would rather purge these heretics rather than let them fight for them.

Now Blizz itself crafted this culture but the argument still stands : if there’s no place for warlocks even as outcasts in a society then you won’t be able to create one and become one of the most valuable assets of your faction.

The issues lies more on how they created this society than the cultural argument.

They told me they were going to the shop for some bread and they never returned :frowning_face:

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Umm…Actually if they are massively Voodoo (which to be fair, they are) then it makes 100% sense that they would -not- include Warlocks. The idea of a Warlock would be absolutely abhorrent to the sensibilities of a Voodoo priest/priestess, or are you getting your ideas of Voodoo from Hollywood?

No they weren’t. Perhaps Zandalari can’t be Warlocks, because they actually seem to be -more- devout in their religion than the offshoot tribes, and realise that a Warlock, and Voodoo are kind of incompatible.

You’re saying that like they were ever depicted otherwise. They were always MesoAmerican inspired, by a religion with its roots in Africa. Zandalari are -more troll- than trolls have ever been!

Nothing left to resemble dark voodoo culture? Are you mad? Do you not know anything of the voodoo faith? Do you not know what Bwonsamdi is directly a reference to, in Voodoo? I mean they didn’t even hide the name that cunningly! Bwonsamdi=Baron Samedi, the Loa of…well, death.

Basically, you can want Warlocks, or you can want Voodoo. One or the other.

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Well, Witch Doctors and Hexers use abilities from Warlocks, priests, and shamans.

Although, that’s more of a game thing.

Yep, they do, but the idea of summoning a Demon, rather than being a ‘Horse’ is absolutely counter to Voodoo. Also, people really have the wrong ideas about Voodoo, I mean, what do you do with a Voodoo doll?

Stab it with needles.

Or snap its neck.

Pure Hollywood, mi amigo. A Voodoo doll was used to heal, not harm, it was basically sympathetic magic via acupuncture :stuck_out_tongue: You stuck the pins in, to target pain and ailments and cure them from the corresponding area…

That’s not Troll Voodoo in WoW though.

SO GIT OUTTA H’YAH!

Some idiots couldn’t stop spam about Zandalari being purely regal as well as banning blood magic. Completely ignoring that Warlocks are literally outcasts in all races societies save for Blood Elves, Undead, Dark Iron Dwarves and Goblins.

Wouldnt warlocks be against the Zandalari faith/belief in the Loa’s?

If you’re summoning/controlling/imprisoning/manipulating a demon then you are refusing that particular spirit passage to the shadowlands via the likes of Bwonsamdi?

Bwonsambi deals with souls… All trolls deals with curses and Hexes. Like Warlocks.

Vol’Dun have an entire harbour littered with Zandalari Warlocks.

Y’all can’t appropriate a culture that isn’t my actual culture so…uhh, N’yah, Boo, sucks to be you! :laughing:

Even WoW Voodoo does not seem to be the same as Demonology however, and given that even to this day, the quote still stands about Haiti “Oh, We’re 90% Catholic, but 100% Voodoo” its like, ehhhh, is that actually offensive? I mean we know about the not showing bones on the Asian client servers, and why, we know about changing ‘God’ to ‘The Light’, but, well, Voodoo is an actual religion…maybe they just wanted to not be douches to Houngans and such. I mean it ain’t my religion personally, but it -is- a religion…

Zandalari Warlocks? They’re called Shaman…

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That’s my point. Vol’dun is where -bad- Zandalari were sent to die…I mean, yeah, where else would they be.

IN yo momas bed.

In fairness, dads been dead more than a decade, she probably deserves some fun, and Bwonsamdi does sound like a considerate lover :stuck_out_tongue:

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In recent events. Vol’dun is where all Zandalari that weren’t in league with Zul got sent to die. And either way. Warlocks are almost always outcasts so literally every argument against them would mean that half the races that currently have warlocks shouldn’t have been able to have them.

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