Where did the community go?

Dejarous-draenor · May 27, 2019, 8:36pm

Summer starts 21 June. You’re welcome.

Patetique-burning-legion · May 27, 2019, 9:44pm

I’d be up for it if I could.
Sadly am working 6 days a week in afternoons and have only tuesdays off.

So if you want you might count me in as casual?
Just state the Realm and when would the runs take place, and if I can I’ll join either as tank or healer (tho I don’t know routes in old dungeons so healer is preferable).

Btw, loved your Horde community at the begining of BfA, sadly it became kinda infested once you left.

Ãnna-draenor · May 27, 2019, 9:53pm

It just got way too big, and with the community functions being so limited I would really only go for a guild if I do this again

Tahra-earthen-ring · May 27, 2019, 10:00pm

It won’t be.

Ãnna-draenor · May 27, 2019, 10:01pm

I am hoping to find some nice people from current to go into classic with… otherwise I just can’t do it.

Джифорз-soulflayer · May 28, 2019, 5:28am

Blizzard created tools which allowed players to play with no interactions at all.

But for some people its a good thing, they are shy to start speaking, so they just use lfg, do the dungeon and leave without saying a word.

I also realized many times that I didn’t accept some player’s inv, cuz as a tank you can easily solo almost everything in bfa except for world bosses.

Adamante-wildhammer · May 28, 2019, 5:40am

Why is SP so perfect?

This is what I hear when people start bringing up the “home” meme

Aerensiniac-argent-dawn · May 28, 2019, 5:46am

Look… wow will never have a community again, unless the two main pillar systems of sharding and lfg are somehow rewritten or removed.
Wow right now is about playing with bots.
You queue up and you get assigned some completely random nobody from a server you didnt even know existed, and at the end of the dungeon, the guy vanishes and you wont see him ever again in your life.

Why would people talk to eachother?
They wont because there is no reason to. Content is piss poor and piss easy, everyone is soloing it. Maps and dungeons are filled with random nickname sharded bots that you gonna never see again.

TL;DR: im tired of this topic and blizzard’s stupidity in regards of not recognizing this, but i recommend you just keeping subscription off till classic comes out.
Im done playing this shait too till then.
The death of the community is on absolutely nobody other than blizz.

Velaeda-argent-dawn · May 28, 2019, 6:23am

I would love to join you.

I’m fine with either faction, although I would prefer Alliance to see some new content.

My prefered role would be healing, followed by tanking.

Dregora-argent-dawn · May 28, 2019, 7:14am

I’d be interested in this. I love leveling new chars but I kinda miss the social aspect. Now the questing is pure single player, even in BfA.

Lilîith-silvermoon · May 28, 2019, 7:19am

Næsh:

Hello everyone! How are you doing? Summer is almost here. Are you excited?

I wanted to share with you my experience from leveling a fresh character, without heirlooms etc. over the last weekend.

And I just want to start of by saying that I’m not “trashing” anyone here. This is just my experience over the weekend, and how I felt afterwards.

[WARNING! WALL OF TEXT AHEAD]

I originally canceled my subscription a while back because I don’t enjoy the focus of the game at max level, and haven’t since probably MoP (bought and played every expansion since I first started playing the game back in 2006). To put it simple; The M+ focus and the boring RNG is not for me.

But I decided to re-subscribe again for a chance on the Classic Beta. Needless to say, I’ve not been accepted (EU account and non-streamer, GG I guess)

So instead of leaving my sub running I thought I would get something out of the 30 days and made myself a Priest.

Been leveling without Heirlooms, trying to enjoy the story more and not just rush through it all. But I must say… even without Heirlooms the leveling is far to fast, and I can’t keep up with my professions even if I try. Everything gives XP these days, and you’ll out level your Class quest, dungeon quests etc before you know it.

But I’ve still enjoyed the questing to an extent. Still strange to get epics at level 17, but what am I to do? The game works like that now.

But one thing I’ve learned to hate over the last 28 levels it the community. Or the lack of community to put it more precisely. There’s non what so ever.

Let me give you an example;

You start of as a Undead, getting through “Deathknell” and enter Brill. You see these people running around and you think to yourself “Hey! There’s actually some activity around here. This might turn out to be pretty pleasant”. Thinking you’ll get to interact with people, group up and enjoy leveling through the lower levels.

But after a little while you realize that most of these people are just rushing through everything. Probably to reach level 15 asap and get access to the Dungeon tool. Which is fine, I guess. What are the chance that all of these people think like that, right?

Well… then you realize there’s no talking in /1 General chat. And you decide to try a little experiment yourself. So you type “/1”. But there’s no /1 General chat. It’s gone! Probably removed after the “Battle for Lordaeron” scenario? But still… you should be able to interact with people at a lower level, right?

I decided to leave it be and just focus on finding someone to group with and get further in to the levels before bedtime, so that I could travel to “Hillsbrad Foothills”. Get into some “Southshore vs Tarren Mill” shenanigans with the Alliance. But there’s no groups (at least I didn’t find any), and there’s no more “Southshore vs Tarren Mill” anymore. We’ve apparently nuked the living out of the whole zone.

So I decided to go for “Ashenvale”. There must be some Alliance scum there I figured. So I reached level 20 and got myself on a Zeppelin to Orgrimmar. Opt in to the “War mode” and picked up the “Adventure guide” quest in “Ashenvale”.
When I got to “Ashenvale” I figured I would try my little experiment again. So I typed /who in chat to see how many there were in that zone. The screen showed 15-20 players. Which looked promising! So I saluted them in /1 General chat. Asking how they were doing etc. Not a single answer. Nothing. I said to myself “Okay! They’re probably busy fighting Alliance or something”. So I went on looking for Alliance players to fight.

All I found was a level 120 Nightelf Hunter who drop kicked me from the sky after he dismounted his flying mount. Hehe! But no action anywhere else. No Alliance, nothing.

So I gave my little experiment another go. And asked in /1 General chat for any tips to where the Alliance might be hiding. This was about 15 mins after mys first attempt in this zone. And there were still about 15-20 people in this zone. All leveling (20 - 30). But not a single response.

So I started buffing everyone I saw with my [Power Word: Fortitude] to see if anyone responded to it. I must have buffed 10-15 players just standing next to the Inn in “Splintertree Post”. And only one of them responded with a “ty”. And he were wearing greens and blues, no heirlooms and no “Chauffeur Chopper” mount. But he was level 26 (no trial account), so either a new player or a old school player spending his/hers subscription the only way they can when they didn’t get Beta access. I don’t know. But he was nice.

All of this happened over the weekend, and today I logged back in to do some professions (you just out level them to fast), since I wanted to spend some time with that as well. So most of the day today have been spent in Orgrimmar. And I must say that nothing has made me feel more depressed in this game than the fact that the chat is dead. /1 is dead. /2 is dead, besides the “living bots” spamming their boost services with referral to their discord or whatnot. Every 2 minutes or so. Even in /y they’re spamming. There’s no trading of mats, no bantering about silly stuff. Nothing. Just a lot of “bots” selling boost for gold.

So I came down to a conclusion. The community is “dead”. I’m sure there’s internal chat, in guilds or other communities. Either on discord, in guild chat or community chat. But the “world chat” is dead. No groups for quests, because most people don’t need them. They just nuke the “elite” and move on. And dungeons are only a button away, and you don’t have to talk to anyone to get in a group. You don’t even have to talk to the group you’re playing with, while inside the dungeons. Because everyone just rushes through in hope of maximizing their XP and loot.

There’s no World PvP because, why would you spend time on something that gains you nothing? No honor points to spend on nice gear. No faction rep for cool tabards or mounts. There’s absolutely no reason to do World PvP unless you just do it because you want to, and don’t care if you’re “wasting” time with it. Which I gladly would. But the majority of the player base won’t. And can you blame them?

There’s no sense of faction loyalty, nothing. It feels like I’m playing a singleplayer game with the option to Coop with others on certain things like dungeons and battlegrounds etc.

Like GTA 5, where the city just works as a lobby while they wait for new transport missions to be available again, or some race to start. That is how the world feels to me. People are running around “1-2 hitting” stuff while they wait for the queue to pop. Which is pretty frequent at lower levels, compared to level 120 where you’ll have to wait for 30 mins (at least) if you just want to do some random battleground for fun.

So… where did the community go?

I love this game. And I want to play it. But it’s getting harder every time I come back. I’m looking forward to Classic. Hopefully things will be better there. But who knows? Maybe this community is to broken and toxic to be “saved”? I sure hope not. Or maybe I’m just too old and grumpy? Maybe I don’t get how things work anymore, and therefore are missing out on a lot of stuff? I don’t know…

I’m still going to level my priest. I’m still having fun on my own. But it saddens me to see how empty the world is now.

hm ill throw in my 2 cents .

imo community is not dead - community got tired.

tired of so many guilds dying and so many people leaving over the years.

tired of making new aquitances only so they quit 2 months later

you yourself give validity to what i say - you came back for 1 month

why should anyone bother knowing or speaking to you if you will be gone soon .

so people simply cba anymore . i myself have like 10 people who i have on real id and speak occasionaly but i dont feel any need to speak to anyone else.

i have plenty enough friends irl and dont feel any need to make internet friends anymore.

and i could bet most people are like me unless they do content regularly with their raid/mythic + / pvp teams in guilds.

if i wanted to speak to someone i have plenty of people who i can call or meet for a beer/coffee - why should i bother speaking to people in computer game ?

Gratjal-agamaggan · May 28, 2019, 7:41am

This is basicly the same for me, i talk alot with guildies and people from the calm keystone community. I don’t see a reason to talk in lfg or the open world unless they start talking to me.

Ãnna-draenor · May 28, 2019, 8:10am

Awesome just need to get a total of 5 of us

Ãnna-draenor · May 28, 2019, 8:11am

Healer role is all yours!

Alliance is fine with me I can do any role… I fancy lock but can tank

I would like a full group of 5 of us because I don’t want us to deal with any pugging - at least for the 5 man stuff.

Ok I will make a new post for this and will link it once it’s made

Ãnna-draenor · May 28, 2019, 8:22am

Feel free to join us:

Zagrul-argent-dawn · May 28, 2019, 8:59am

The misconception that just because WoW is an MMO everyone in it wants to make “online friends” (lol) and interact with others really needs to go.

it’s beyond retarded and out of place. If you want that crap, go join a guild or something. Random people who are questing around and doing their own thing are not interested in becoming your best friend or “Teaming up” with you for quests which they can easily do alone.

It’s seriously annoying as hell when some moron starts jumping around you and writing in /s “HEY HEY WHAT’S UP HEY WANNA GROUP??”.

Stop.

Halicos-terokkar · May 28, 2019, 9:26am

I support that idea and I would love to join you guys and girls .

Ãnna-draenor · May 28, 2019, 9:29am

Sneakyfists-twisting-nether · May 29, 2019, 6:50am

The problem is twofold:
1: In their rush to streamline everything they kinda removed any real reason to talk to anyone outside of high-tier raiding and PvP (and even then you jump on Discord if you’re serious.
You don’t need to talk to people to get into dungeons because of LFG.
You don’t need to ask people to make you profession gear or weapons because you get gear extremely fast, you have heirlooms to level up with and as soon as you hit 120 you can hit 370+ without ever touching a single dungeon or raid.
You don’t need to ask people to group up to take down a difficult quest mob because everything scales to your level and nothing is a challenge anymore (and for higher level content you have the LFG button).
Nobody talks because there’s no need to do so anymore, you just log in, do some PvE content with some bots, do your solo content and then log out.

2: Society itself has changed dramatically over the last 10 or so years, even outside of a virtual environment we’ve become more and more reclusive and seemingly reluctant to communicate, either due to people preferring to communicate online and within our own social groups or because they’re wary of talking to others for fear of offending them and getting in trouble (thanks social justice).

Communities in general have massively changed, but with WoW it isn’t helped by this lack of reason to communicate with others for the vast majority of the game.

system · June 28, 2019, 7:02am

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