Ive been raiding trough dragonflight now, i have not seen raid loot drop for me in weeks on many characters. Only way to get raid loot now, is to get it in the vault.
Feel like raiding is a waste of time.
I do usaly run LFR, normal and hc on my characters. Even i do that, im not guranteed to see any loot at all. So u spend many hours for nothing every week.
70% of the raid loot gotten is from weekly timewalking or vault. You know something is wrong.
If it was not for the TW weekly loot and Vault, ive been sitting here in my underpants, and that is not even a joke. I dont do M+, i raid like in the old days.
They should have never enabled it for non guild groups. Another tell-tale sign that the people at Blizzard have no idea how to implement something the right way.
But then again it’s always the same story, years on end where they either don’t listen to the players and when they do they stop thinking twice about how to implement it the right way.
The loot roll is great but not when it’s enabled with a bunch of random people. Any person with half a brain playing this game would know this.
It’s a shame the game is being ran through by people in control who are only able to do complete left or complete right and not stop to think for 5 seconds on how things would be most optimal for both sides.
After they removed personal loot I also stopped getting raid loot, but only did a bit of LFR this expansion. Now I don’t do anything at all, so doesn’t matter anymore.
With the personal loot you had some kind of progression trough the week.
Was pretty ok, but now…
My god, its like im raiding with 5 characters x3 raids and i get 1 loot on one of em from doing all the difficulties.
I rather have the game shower me with loot, so i can go and do other content in the game. Run around having fun in pvp, questing or other activites. But im locked trough the loot grind.
Blizzard belive that if they give me to much loot, they are going to lose me. No… its not like that. I have 10 characters… I have a lot of things to do in the game. But now, i want to quit the game, for not getting loot. I want to do other things, but i cant, due im stuck on the hamster wheel of loot RNG
Everybody, it wasn’t removed because of class stacking…
…it was removed because of me. I did it. I removed it on a whim, and now I regret my actions. I’ll try to make it up to everybody with a big dance party in Dalaran next week.
I feel like you guys don’t actually understand how loot works
The current system is identical to how personal loot works except now you see the roll and get to pick an option instead of it all being done automatically
Mathematically it’s the same. The underlying processes is the same.
The only real difference is that now it dosent respect raid comp which leads to less useful loot. That is the real reason you are getting less loot and that is the thing that should change. Don’t get bogged down in group loot bs personal loot. All it dose is make you forget that blizzard made it possible for the loot system to no longer respect raid comp
And ofc your vault gives you more loot it’s 3 items you get to pick from. To put that in perspective each boss drops 0.2 items per player. With a 1 in 38 chance it targets your class and loot spec. So 3 great vault slots is the same as 15 raid bosses. There are 8 bosses in the raid so simply maths tells you at least 2/3 of your raid loot is going to show up in the vault
Eh, half the gear on the character you’re coming from is heroic, some of it better, some of it worse.
And some bosses you’ve only killed once or twice so to say you do hc every week is a bit of a stretch. And if you’re better geared than lfr and normal it stands to reason you have nothing to gain there, right?
Dunno, smacks of a generic whine like “I never get loot from the vault” when you’re 420 equipped and only one slot holds a possible upgrade.
I keep reading this, yet I’ve gone from looting 1-2 items pr. run in dungeons and raids, to almost never seeing loot. In my case the removal of personal loot was a huge change.
But that isn’t because personal loot went away. It’s because blizzard changed it so that the items that drop are much less likely to be fore your class.
They made that change independent of swapping to group loot
You could actually argue that the only reason they swapped to group loot was to hide the fact that the loot system can now drop a bow when there are no bow users in the raid. Would look a little odd for you to loot it as personal loot
I don’t really know how else to explain it. It’s like swapping to group loot was a way for them to disguise the fact that a lot less useful loot is dropping. I hope I’ve explained that well enough
