Where do the people from Hydraxian Waterlords go to with their free transfer?

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I was wondering where the (RP) people from the Hydraxian Waterlords realm migrate to with their free char. tranfers.

I’ve been trying to be on that realm, but it is realy dying out and the few people you see are just standing there no connection…just like normal servers.

So I am looking for the place where the most of the RP people are going to so I can consider to go to that realm too for some genuine nice ambiance and maybe connect with some of these people to up my own experience.

And NO I won’t go to HW again and try it, it is empty (the max I saw online were 34).

So, simply put:

Where are the most RP’er hang out these days? Or are going to These days?
Are they trying to revive their RP-guild(s)?

Greetings.

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There you have it mate, the HW realm is empty and that is where RPers hang out. Any “serious” rpers don’t bother with wotlk.

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cheers for your answer.

Imho it’s kind of stange if Rp’ers don’t bother with it: the world is evolving (again): overcome, adept, push trough kind of RP…but that’s just my (maybe way to idealistic) view :wink:

It’s not that I look for the serious RP’ers themselves, but rather the ambiance they bring with them on realms.
I am getting a bit tired of people only using this game as a mobile raiding game.
No fun events, no social events: just rush rush rush, go go go, grab grab grab.

So I was thinking there must be a server where those people migrated to with their attitude…and I am on the quest to find that realm and those people.

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Oh no, you are slightly mistaken, quite a few RPers took a liking to WoW but in TBC they crippled the population from 1000+ active players to 0+ by offering free transfers off of the realm.

In Wotlk we bounced up to around 100+ active players but it dwindled and died.

Simply put, the current interest on the wotlk RP realm is due to a heinous mismanagement by Blizzard.

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aah that makes it more clear for me…
Think it will ever recover?
I mean, the community can build itself up even though not on a RP server?

I saw this big attempt for SoD and that community seemed to grow rather quick, they made arrangements and went on a server and took it.

I won’t be playing SoD for that matter, but I am sure this can be done here once more?
Or am I to romantic now? And did they just gave up in the end?

I can’t be the only one looking for this particulair ambiance.
ANd I am not even a Roleplayer myself (active).

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No. It has had over a year now to build itself, and now that free transfers exist off the realm, it stands no chance at all.

It has had Free transfers open TO it for over 6months.

What you are looking for, doesn’t exist tbh.

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I would say the HW players to not migrate anywhere. Because those who are left are the core who deliberately decidede to stay there during the last FCT period.
Although it seems Blizzard did decide to kill the server off finally so it mght be that we will have no choice. But I am pretty sure the current base will stay until a shutdown is announced definitely.

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I transferred an Alliance character from Mograine, I can now transfer it to a more populated server.

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SoD Crusader Strike RP-PvP.

Not a chance. WotLK is dying overall, and the RP realm has free transfers off it. It is as dead as it gets. SoD is where it’s at right now. Crusader Strike RP discord has hundreds of active people, realm discord has tens of thousands.

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Well, on Hydraxian Waterlords, of course.
Where else?

The RP guilds are still there (those who were there during Wrath).

Indeed :slight_smile:
Those who are left never left during the last FCT transfers, or moved TO Hydraxian Waterlords because Zandalar Tribe and Celebras were murdered (Celebras was WAY bigger than Hydraxian Waterlords when my realm was murdered in favor of Hydraxian Waterlord, and would have been still way bigger NOW. We´ve had few hundred players at the same time online when we were killed. But most didn´t move to Hydraxian due to language barrier).

Hydraxian Waterlords is now still bigger as it was when we arrived last year (and we chose the smaller realm intentionally).
No need to panic.
And even if the player count drops - i wouldn´t expect the RP guilds to move anywere.

But most do also play SoD now (Lava Lash for the RP-PVE bubble obviously).

No, they didn´t. :slight_smile:
I would be REALLY surprised if they´d kill the realm now (remove it alltogether).
There was no reason last year to leave one, we all together wouldn´t have made the cut (was monitoring the player count we as player can see on tracking websites and the numbers of the rp realms and those realms who were added to the merge list and those who barely made it. So it´s an assumption but i guess a good one).

The realm was left all the time for the roleplayer.

Beside that- i think in one of the interviews recently they said, that they had more issues with the merges as expected and “the technology isn´t there yet”.
Wouldn´t be surprised if they´d just leave the low pop realms with Cata as it is now, with the transfers off permanently (keep in mind that all era realms have also FCT toward the biggest PVE/PVP realm, and they don´t touch the era realms either).

I have several RP events the next few weeks :person_shrugging:

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Ok I read multiple visions,

But I have been in HW…and it seems very much “dead” to me too;

1- NO conversations AT ALL.
2- There is on activity in any channel, and ok, I can get that on an RP realm those channels aren’t spammed and this can be a good thing (imo), but absolutely nothing? (How does recruitment work for example?)
3- The AH (Economy) is hard for as far as I could find.
4- A max of 20-30 people online at the same time. Which can be bad and good ofcourse, but for me personally, a little bit of social interaction either IC or OOC is a pre…else I can just play a single player game.

As someone earlier told me: what I am looking for might not excists.
And it seems so this person might be right.
It is either “niche” roleplayers or a big group prob only communicate through own channels and apear as npc’s in the game to many “new players who want to try it out”

Not to be rude, but there is only 1 person always defending the realm and its "greatness’ every time on this forum…

So how would you draw in new players that like to touch RP without scaring them away with nothing and emptiness?

And before I get flamed about that this is not true, the server is NOT dead and so on:

This was my experience!
ANd I tried, I want it to work and realy looked, but this was my experience and will probably be the experience of many others who want to try it out.

I am even trying to set up a RP-minded (mind you not a HC-RP) Pve/PvP group on a normal server, because I refuse to believe that there are non like me roaming around.
(Just set up, so no epic stories of succes or faillure yet :P)

Yes I get ridiculed for it sometimes: I tend to walk, I tend to answer in a bit of a character wise manner etc.
But on the other hand I also get a few very nice conversations out of it and bottom line is:
No one dares to actually enjoy the game and it’s RPG element becasue they are scared to be either Ridiculed, or that the RP’ers are hardcore and never talk like normal people (my exact fear to btw).

Which is strange in a RPG imo.

What you see here is a vision of someone who is probably in between the “normal” and the “RP” realm, and I cannot be the only one that is in this sort of void.

What I truly hope is that a lot of people will eventually pick the HW realm, but I also hope that the people from HW act welcoming to those people, even though they might not be the HC Rp’ers but rather casual players who just don’t want the “raid-spam” and the “get better, be geared etc” anymore and enjoy the game for what it is.

I for one will not be trying it out with this very small population and I am sure it ticks off many others.

(I am typing this with positive intention btw, so if some things might sounds like I am flaming or downtalking: not my intention, might be a language thing, so please also adress this message in a positive constructive way. )

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Most of the conversation happens within the existing guilds. Either guild chat or discord. The Three biggest Alliance guilds are very well connected and we rarely need to use the public chat for communication.
Recruitment also happens more privately and not via Channel spams. We like to get to know people better than just the “Guild is recruiting” “Hey inv” conversation.
AH is pretty dead, yes. But our guild bank is better anyway. We help each other our with stuff.

So yes, if you want to be part of the community you have to take a step at people and talk to them.

Get your facts straight! We are at least two! And that is just because the others are not around much in the forums.

Well, the emptiness is mostly the fault of Blizzards trasnfer policy.
You are right, the only thing attracting new RP players is the [RP] label of the server. Once you are there you have to find your own way. But if you ask nicely in a channel (Any other question than “Hello is this server dead?”) you will get nice answers and help from someone.

We have a lot of of “normal” PvE players on HW but no one will ridicule you for speaking in an RP way. And that is the big plus of an RP server. People are generally nice and less elitist then on the megaservers.

That is truly my hope too.

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Thank you!!!

makes loads of sense :slight_smile:

I stand corrected, 2! :stuck_out_tongue: (Although 1 is very very vocal in a good way)

All and all, I realy appreciate the time people took to try and answer my (probably not so clear) questions.

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Well, the realm IS tiny.
No one does deny this fact.

The problem is, that the devs opened up FCT at the end of `21, draining the realm empty, announced in june last year they´d kill the realm which let to some more transfers, decided to keep the realm and force all roleplayers towards this realm, and then did neither open up the realm for PCT, nor opened the promised FCT off all EU realms until the beginning of August 22
And then, after 1.5 weeks, the transfers were closed again :see_no_evil:

i know, that there went A LOT wrong and this wasn´t intented by the devs at all, but it is how it went and the realm never really got a chance to recover.
The result is visible till today

Nah, there are more of us :wink:

Well in my experience the Waterlords are very welcoming, but they often expect some kind of effort (means the newbie at least needs to try to be part of the community).
The reality of those tiny realms is, that the community and the solidarity on those realms can be great, but it does require some kind of effort to find groups, make contacts, make friends.
If that´s not what someone is looking for, those tiny realms are really not the right one.

and apart from that - what Kaldarr says :wink:

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I have no doubt. And how many new RPers do you get per month? How many transfer in as opposed to out? How many leave or go on a “break”.
The question OP asked was “will it recover?”
You may have some events planned with the dying remnant of the population, but do you honestly think many role-players will be drawn in by release of Cataclysm in a couple of months. That expansion is not exactly popular among old world enjoyers, or so I hear.
I just don’t want some poor soul to actually believe you and get stuck on a dead realm with your 3 “closely connected” guilds. Especially when SoD with a booming RP community exists, together with hundreds of pages of AH and a run of each dungeon (of the 5 available) starting every couple of minutes.
Look, I sympathise with you, ZT also died and a first few months there was greatest fun I had RPing in wow. But wrath is dead, HW is dead, don’t lure people to be dead there with you.

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This particular user you are replying to should be avoided arguing with, they will come back with a huge wall of text telling you why you are wrong and you will go in circles talking past each other because the other party is in complete denial.

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Still, if a player is looking for any RP on a Wrath server, Hydraxian is the ONLY option left. It is so small and cozy that some consider it dead but it still is the only RP realm left.
So if you are looking for roleplay in Wrath, it still is the only viable option.
If you are looking for RP in general, era servers or probably SoD could be better (but how long will SoD last?).

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It will not more or less “recover” as it did the whole time, that´s the whole point.
The RP community was stable the whole time through Wrath.

Until SoD is over, or the player count will drop.
The player playing SoD are exactly those who run away the last time already, even the discord is names “Zandalar Tribe 2.0” in some channels.
Why do you expect that they´d stay this time around?

Beside that, it doesn´t help him in Wrath and if he is a RP-PVE player. :wink:

Well you are luring people to a realm with a short lifespan. SoD is a Season

A lot of player on Crusader are PVE/PVP player who are just waiting for Living Flame to be finally open.
It remains to be seen how many are really there for the RP-PVP, and how many will stay.
And if too many leave and the devs open up transfers again, how active the realm then will stay.
I hope through SoD (not sure if they´d leave a era SoD RP realm), but after that the oh so thriving RP community is probably gone anyway. No real difference to Cata.

The main issue HWL had in the end was the PVE cry baby who was too dumb to leave when he got the chance and was then so dumb to actually lure people from mega realms to HWL who did never fit because he thought he could revive the realm like this.
Was set to fail.

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Called it.

Much longer than Wotlk did probably.

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Since this thread was now entered by player who will tell you everything despite mega realms is “deAd” - if you are looking for ROLEPLAY options, you only have following options:

Wrath of the Lichking

  • Hydraxian Waterlords

It´s so simple. If you don´t like it (that´s fine) you don´t have an option. It´s really so simple, unfortunately

Era

  • Zandalar Tribe: This realm was empty for a long time, and with empty i mean literal empty. Everytime i logged in to check, there was no one online except me. there was some revival during the huge era revival, but i don´t know how active they still are. I assume that most went to SoD now

  • Hydraxian Waterlords: Has always had a small community.

On Alliance:

  • Echoes of Lordaeron
  • Hearts

On Horde:

  • Gift of Taretha

Horde goes 40 man raid or at least did, afaik.
If that´s too tiny, you won´t have an option on Era, too.

(i´ll skip Celebras here, the third option. We´re pretty active for the size of the realm, afaik from RP point of view the most activest era realm in EU and US, but most of us are germans and though we do have some EU player, most communiction is done in german)

Season of Discovery
SoD is the new “hype thing”.
You can see this easily on player numbers. Wrath dropped, the two HC realms dropped from full and high to low pop, the PVP era cluster went from Full to high to medium and the PVe from a long term stable medium to low pop

SoD is currently thriving and active, but it´s - right now- not predictable for how long.
It´s also not sure what´s going to happen with the characters after SoD. They won’t be deleted but either going to era realms or to SoD era realms.
Not saying you shouldn´t try it, though :wink:

On SoD
Lava Lash
Is the RP-PVE realm. Currently a medium pop. Has some roleplayer (some from HWL too, afaik).

Crusader Strike
Most Roleplayer who are happy with PVP or can live with PVP went there, therefore currently the biggest RP community in EU in WoW classic.

The devs have already mentioned that they will open FCM options if the realms drop in player count, which rendered the EU RP realms already empty once (though they were rather refering to the additonal PVP realms i think and less about the RP. But not sure about this).
If it does happen or not, is not predictable right now since SoD is pretty fresh.

But yes, if you don´t care about the game itself, if you are fine with world PVP (50:50 faction balance is enforced now at least on realm side. Factions are dynamically locked on and off all the time), Crusader Strike is the way to go atm.